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  • 02-09-2011, 03:56 PM
    Monster Dodge
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    I thought that was a pretty awesome and flawless surgery. Was just like watching Discovery Health Channel:P
  • 02-11-2011, 03:00 AM
    loxocemus
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    it bothers no one that the course of this surgery was decided by a child? (and it was a "surgical procedure", when u have ur organs stuffed back in and sewn back up, u have just had surgery), if ralph had succeeded in one of his earlier attempts in pushing the yolk tissue back in, dont u think his poor hygiene and the presence of that tissue (which must be a bacteria's wet dream) would have lead to a different outcome?

    rgds
    ed
  • 02-11-2011, 08:02 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loxocemus View Post
    it bothers no one that the course of this surgery was decided by a child? (and it was a "surgical procedure", when u have ur organs stuffed back in and sewn back up, u have just had surgery), if ralph had succeeded in one of his earlier attempts in pushing the yolk tissue back in, dont u think his poor hygiene and the presence of that tissue (which must be a bacteria's wet dream) would have lead to a different outcome?

    rgds
    ed

    Doesn't bother me. The kid was right.


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  • 02-11-2011, 04:39 PM
    loxocemus
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    if this was any member here, who performed this backyard surgery, they would have been hung drawn and quartered, it would not have mattered one iota that they were holding the surviving baby 6mths later, u would have tore him/her apart regardless, it seems its not possible for people to be completely honest about ralph davis on a ball python forum, i suppose i was a little naive to think it would be otherwise.

    i believe ralph got lucky, nothing more, his son in fact is responsible for the happy outcome, to experience what that neonate went through, pierce ur stomach 8-10 times with a skewer, but please dont put ur dirty fingers in the holes, u may not be as lucky as ralph.

    rgds
    ed
  • 02-11-2011, 04:44 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loxocemus View Post
    if this was any member here, who performed this backyard surgery, they would have been hung drawn and quartered, it would not have mattered one iota that they were holding the surviving baby 6mths later, u would have tore him/her apart regardless, it seems its not possible for people to be completely honest about ralph davis on a ball python forum, i suppose i was a little naive to think it would be otherwise.

    i believe ralph got lucky, nothing more, his son in fact is responsible for the happy outcome, to experience what that neonate went through, pierce ur stomach 8-10 times with a skewer, but please dont put ur dirty fingers in the holes, u may not be as lucky as ralph.

    rgds
    ed

    First of all his fingers had been cleaned, don't be so melodramtic. Second, there is a big difference between ANY member and someone with more experience than any vet I have ever met.

    Ralph made his own luck. He has living proof. Show me something real that proves what he did was wrong. Or, show me a better alternative. Waiting for a vet when this snakes life is on the line? Your post sounds like something peta would say about our rack systems.
  • 02-11-2011, 04:44 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loxocemus View Post
    if this was any member here, who performed this backyard surgery, they would have been hung drawn and quartered, it would not have mattered one iota that they were holding the surviving baby 6mths later, u would have tore him/her apart regardless, it seems its not possible for people to be completely honest about ralph davis on a ball python forum, i suppose i was a little naive to think it would be otherwise.

    i believe ralph got lucky, nothing more, his son in fact is responsible for the happy outcome, to experience what that neonate went through, pierce ur stomach 8-10 times with a skewer, but please dont put ur dirty fingers in the holes, u may not be as lucky as ralph.

    rgds
    ed

    WOW!!! you've been a member here for a total of 4 days and you already know our membership so well :gj::gj: Props..

    However had you stopped to look and see the RDR is a member here and has been for a while you might think differently.

    Not trying to change your mind you're entitled to your opinion..but I will ask that you keep the acquisition's of what the members here will and wont do.
  • 02-11-2011, 04:58 PM
    loxocemus
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    my join date is 02-21-2008, iv no idea where u get 4 days from.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    WOW!!! you've been a member here for a total of 4 days and you already know our membership so well :gj::gj: Props..

    However had you stopped to look and see the RDR is a member here and has been for a while you might think differently.

    Not trying to change your mind you're entitled to your opinion..but I will ask that you keep the acquisition's of what the members here will and wont do.

  • 02-11-2011, 05:02 PM
    loxocemus
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    more experience than any vet u have ever met? no gloves, sewing needle and sewing thread, poor hygiene, no pain relief of any kind, u really need to find a new vet.

    i can see why u would think i have a peta opinion on racks, it just shouts itself from the thread, well it would if u weren't the only person to bring it up.

    ed

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stratus_020202 View Post
    First of all his fingers had been cleaned, don't be so melodramtic. Second, there is a big difference between ANY member and someone with more experience than any vet I have ever met.

    Ralph made his own luck. He has living proof. Show me something real that proves what he did was wrong. Or, show me a better alternative. Waiting for a vet when this snakes life is on the line? Your post sounds like something peta would say about our rack systems.

  • 02-11-2011, 05:08 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loxocemus View Post
    more experience than any vet u have ever met? no gloves, sewing needle and sewing thread, poor hygiene, no pain relief of any kind, u really need to find a new vet.

    i can see why u would think i have a peta opinion on racks, it just shouts itself from the thread, well it would if u weren't the only person to bring it up.

    ed

    I'm talking experience. Not lack of equipment. And, you still aren't showing me any better alternative. Ralph did what he thought was best, with what he had. I know you think highly of yourself, but you aren't the only person in this thread that thinks it was a bad idea. However, the only one acting so extreme. You sound exactly like the people hating our 30 ft ball pythons, for the fact they are going to take over the US. Facts speak louder than opinion.
  • 02-11-2011, 05:13 PM
    anatess
    Re: Thoughts on Ralph Davis' newest controversial youtube video?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loxocemus View Post
    if this was any member here, who performed this backyard surgery, they would have been hung drawn and quartered, it would not have mattered one iota that they were holding the surviving baby 6mths later, u would have tore him/her apart regardless, it seems its not possible for people to be completely honest about ralph davis on a ball python forum, i suppose i was a little naive to think it would be otherwise.

    i believe ralph got lucky, nothing more, his son in fact is responsible for the happy outcome, to experience what that neonate went through, pierce ur stomach 8-10 times with a skewer, but please dont put ur dirty fingers in the holes, u may not be as lucky as ralph.

    rgds
    ed

    Some member here DID do this "backyard surgery" to his newborn snake. His name is Mike Cavanaugh and I believe he named that snake Cheerio. Cheerio's heart was beating outside her body, so Mike shoved it back into snake, sutured in the same manner that Ralph did and Cheerio was good to go.

    I was too lazy to look for the thread but from what I remember, there was not a single post telling him what a horrible thing he did.
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