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It's pretty transparent if you ask me, refer to my earlier post...

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I never really understood the penny auction scam, but now I see the potential for it with the 15 second reset, check this out, you don't even need a product

I setup OWAL auction the #1 *insert valuable thing here* auction site
People pay to bid on *insert valuable thing here*
If you bid in the last 15 seconds, timer gets reset.
So I just make the timer reset constantly with an account owned by me, at 1 second left
once I feel pretty confident no one else is bidding on it, I win the auction.
Make fake customer testimonial about how I got my *insert valuable thing here* and im happy with it.
Rinse repeat. No *insert valuable thing here* needed.

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First their friends win, they get called out on it, now the "3rd party software" won..... some how i think it's them making an account they control win, they screwed up and made it way to frickin obvious, so they say someone else rigged it, not them. Wait til they get smart and make it use a different account for each auction, then we will see the all the postive feedback they created themselves without moving an animal. If they were smart they would actually send a couple animals of and let a couple people win here and there. This scam is really easy to keep going. Almost wish I was that much of a low life, seems like easy money. damn morals....

I don't see how they can be defended or given the benefit of a doubt now, what are we on strike 9? It's just been one thing after another that screams scam scam scam....

Anyone else see this,

the winner of the 4 auctions just made a FB page stating their educated in penny auctions.

HMMM keep digging that hole guys.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nrvgo...00869239996550

I saw that, and really, why in the HELL would someone join facebook just to post on a website's wall? And they claim to want to be anonymous on the page, but somehow BallBids knows its a woman and a Elem. teacher? Yep. I smell a bot. :)

They've dug themselves a hole so deep that it makes the Grand Canyon look like a slit trench.

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Originally Posted by Tarawr88

I saw that, and really, why in the HELL would someone join facebook just to post on a website's wall? And they claim to want to be anonymous on the page, but somehow BallBids knows its a woman and a Elem. teacher? Yep. I smell a bot. :)

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I would say you would have to be a moron to bot your own site when you could for effectively just make a function that does the same thing, since you have access to your own code. It honestly might be coded in there for no one to win but them or their "friends"

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I would say you would have to be a moron to bot your own site when you could for effectively just make a function that does the same thing, since you have access to your own code. It honestly might be coded in there for no one to win but them or their "friends"

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Well i call people like them simply a waste of DNA.Oh Zach that doesnt stand for DRUGS AND ALCOHOL either so keep taking your meds :rofl::rofl::rofl:.

So I liked nrvgonestop's facebook page (I'm the only one) and I posted "Good job, I hope you win more", and HE deleted my post on his own page... Hmmmmmm sounds like a cover-up to me...

I think I'm changing my opinion..

At this point its clearly a scam, and people keep throwing them money.

If they can get money out of the hands of dummies when it is so GLARINGLY OBVIOUS that is a scam then who am I to stop them?

We really don't have to worry about them sending out sick snakes because nobody is really winning. Dumb folks are gonna lose their money everyday, we can never fix that.

My objection was with them actually selling snakes, but they are not, they just selling people dreams and nothing more. I truly don't believe any snakes are changing hands..

I can't help but find it difficult to believe that a female elementary school teacher would leave the following statement in the "about" section of her Facebook account.
It simply states "I am a penny auction bidder. My new favorite is Ballsbids.com"

I find it funny that they have a youtube page with absolutely nothing on it?

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So I was posting on thier page and the nrvgonestop guy was answering me, and when he posted my notifications box popped up saying that ballbids had just posted, but it was as nrvgonestop. So as soon as I posted about it my FB page was froze and when I got control again all my new notifications box was empty. THen Zack kept answering me as nrvgonestop, but he was still signed in as ballbids, to which he promptly deleted those postes and warned me to not slander. These guys are so stupid.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

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Originally Posted by Dawn Michelle

So I was posting on thier page and the nrvgonestop guy was answering me, and when he posted my notifications box popped up saying that ballbids had just posted, but it was as nrvgonestop. So as soon as I posted about it my FB page was froze and when I got control again all my new notifications box was empty. THen Zack kept answering me as nrvgonestop, but he was still signed in as ballbids, to which he promptly deleted those postes and warned me to not slander. These guys are so stupid.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

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I don't suppose you got screen shots of any of that?

EDIT: I fixed the link in your post to show that you DID get at least one shot of what you're talking about. Nicely done.

this is the screen shot of the posting with the time stamp, but I was unable to catch his little posting hiccup

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...58151195_n.jpg

you need to put up your screen shot Dawn, NM your faster then me lol

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Originally Posted by Wicked Constrictors

you need to put up your screen shot Dawn

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Its on here twice now...:)

Everyone needs to go to there facebook page, and report it. Along with the fake winner page too. If they get there facebook page removed, they lose all hope of advertising, since no forum will take there advertisements with such bad publicity!

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Originally Posted by Whitney Scheib

Everyone needs to go to there facebook page, and report it. Along with the fake winner page too. If they get there facebook page removed, they lose all hope of advertising, since no forum will take there advertisements with such bad publicity!

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Yes I have been promoting that action since yesterday, setting up a business to take peoples money is a crime when you are the recipient of the goods.

Winning their own animals and stealing bidders' money is a Federal crime.

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Reported both to FB as a scam

Too bad you didn't get a screenshot of the mix-up! Any way to view deleted posts? Like cached versions of the convo?

Do you maybe get e-mail notifications? The comment would be preserved in your e-mail. :]

I can kinda prove its a scam.
Look at the bid history of the last auction and the bid times don't add up.

Sent from my phone, to the Internet, to your screen.

http://i42.tinypic.com/dgt2rl.png

Sent from my phone, to the Internet, to your screen.

I just made a report to the BBB in Kentucky, and I have reported my page possibly being hacked to alter a time stamp to FB.

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Originally Posted by ball-nut

http://i42.tinypic.com/dgt2rl.png

Sent from my phone, to the Internet, to your screen.

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See at the last 15 sec it adds 15 sec for every new bid, so each time someone bids it adds 15 sec to the timer and so on, what I witness is that the time was stopped every time at 3 and 5 sec, the night before they were having "glitches" and had to stop the auction and redo it, I think because someone accidently won that wasn't them or their friend.

what happened to the Stop BallBids Facebook page?

Nvrgonestop bid at xx.xx.26 seconds. So add on 15 sec would be 41 sec at xx.xx.40 secs there is activity off of 4 users, this would make the auction end at xx.xx.56 seconds. However apparently Nvrgonestop's last bid was at xx.xx.45 seconds and even if the timer was not reset that leaves 10 seconds to bid. As there were 4 interested bidders at that exact 5 second window it seems very very unlikely they would not bid unless (they couldn't)

Sent from my phone, to the Internet, to your screen.

im trying to see if this nrvgonestop http://www.allpennyauctions.com/user...m/nrvgonestop/ is the same one thats on facebook i think Zack and Avi just found this great history on a penny bid thing and is using the users name so when someone look it up it looks legit.

Yeah shouldn't 15 seconds have to go uninterrupted at the end for the auction to end? Not 3-5?

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Originally Posted by ZombieTom

what happened to the Stop BallBids Facebook page?

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It's "Say No to Ballbids"

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Originally Posted by BallBids.com

Hello everyone, we know you have had lots of patience today as we disguised our plans to make this business better for everyone. As of right now, we will be holding off till next week with our auctions. Do not forget that we are still raffling off the free fire girl today. The contest closes at 7pm tonight, and the winner will be announced at 12pm on Sunday. Thanks for everyone's support and we are excited for the raffle!

Zack:-)

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Originally Posted by Tom Malloy

nrvgonestop Just closed his Facebook page.. I'd have to think is is almost over..

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Interesting... the person defending them no longer has a page, unless they've blocked EVERYONE from viewing, in which case, whats the point in them having a page? lol (But when you do try to go see them, it just redirects to the FB Homepage).

No more auctions until next week? It does sound like everything has come to a close-- thoughts, anyone?

naaa it hasent come to a close (unless the law steps in) there just wanting everything to cool down.
spooky AKA jason doolittle:cool:

Well, Just got banned..

Hopefully someone else comes in to take my place...

I saw that, and am glad I managed to copy-pasta one of your statements over here. Don't worry, I'm sure more will hop in to take your place. :)

There will be plenty of more people to take your place.

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Originally Posted by Tarawr88

Interesting... the person defending them no longer has a page, unless they've blocked EVERYONE from viewing, in which case, whats the point in them having a page? lol (But when you do try to go see them, it just redirects to the FB Homepage).

No more auctions until next week? It does sound like everything has come to a close-- thoughts, anyone?

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I reported this page as spam multiple times and I'm guessing that because of the content it got taken down.

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Tom- Don't worry, I'm up there now making them look like fools. And its okay, because I have atleast 3 backup facebook pages to keep this going with :D

i dont have the option to post there anymore,,, does that mean iv been blocked as well? hows everybody going to hear the truth? are they selecting the coments that they want people to see? sorry,,, kinda new to FB.
spooky

Spooky, yeah they probably blocked you from posting on their wall. Normally it's a nice service to help prevent creepy/stupid people. However, now it's being used by stupid people to keep others ignorant to their crimes.

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Originally Posted by 88Snakes

I can't help but find it difficult to believe that a female elementary school teacher would leave the following statement in the "about" section of her Facebook account.
It simply states "I am a penny auction bidder. My new favorite is Ballsbids.com"

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Holy crap that's just incredible. Their stupidity is mind-boggling at this point.

Time to step in and do my part... *deep voice* for the community! (Need some humor to all this stupidity)

Zachary Rittenhouse~

I don't see the count down for the fire female.... curious.

the only leg that they might have to stand on (for the general public) is the shipping thing... iv noticed that thet keep saying things like "wait til the people recieve their snakes and that will be the proof that we are not scamers"
im pretty sure that all the general public that was around in the beginning when all of the lies was exposed realised that they were scammers and just cruzed,, but these people that are backing them now dont know everything. thats why the 3 posts that they allowed me to make:rolleyes: i said "google ballbids and then make a decision". all of the proof is there,, but its just getting the public to do a little research. i think that right now would be a good time to do something on youtube... i know that i saw that they had a youtube page, but when you went there it was empty. wouldent it be funny if people youtubed ballbids and all they got was a compulation of lies.
spooky

SOme screen shot for everyone.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...oats/photo.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...s/Capture2.png

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SOme screen shot for everyone.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...oats/photo.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...s/Capture2.png

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Okay, I have asked, politely, for proof of running a LEGAL business and my posts have gone ignored. It is not a question of you scamming people because I do not believe you are intentionally trying to scam. I, as well as MANY OTHERS, have asked for proof of business licenses. You should have 2, not including your LLC (which has been stated that you do have). PLEASE post the proof that you are legal and I think all this will stop!
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Mark as SpamBallBids.com Please tell me what 2 licences you believe we are required to have and this might be a lot easier...

Zack:-)17 minutes ago.Alty Edup ForsePanking I believe you were informed previously15 minutes ago · 2.Alty Edup ForsePanking First, this is from your state...there is an entire state run website about auctions and internet penny auctions...here is just a simply read information page from that site http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/KRS/330-00/030.pdf9 minutes ago.BallBids.com No I wasn't This is the problem. People have no Idea what they are saying. I assure you that we are in full legal rights. I can not do better then that BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING BETTER THEN THAT. Thanks for your concern.

Zack:-)9 minutes ago.Alty Edup ForsePanking there is also http://www.louisvilleky.gov/animalservices/ which states you must have a animal dealers license...even onlineHome Page - Animal Services - LouisvilleKy.gov www.louisvilleky.govCome visit the Louisville-Jefferson County website..
Expand Preview8 minutes ago.Alty Edup ForsePanking Please review those and see for yourself....They have both been contacted to verify7 minutes ago.BallBids.com It does not apply to my website. What else is there so we can clear this up real fast. Thanks

Zack:-)6 minutes ago.Alty Edup ForsePanking They both apply to your website...they have been asked to verify....NOT trying to give you a hard time...5 minutes ago · 1.Zachary Rittenhouse I agree, can we please see some licenses? I carry ALL my licenses with me wherever I go, it shouldn't be hard to take a picture of your license with your name on It, I have only a phone and I can. Are we accusing you of anything? No, We your "could be consumers" are merely asking for the proof to all the post you have put.forward.2 minutes ago · 1.Zachary Rittenhouse Would you explain how if you are a auction site that this makes you exempt from having ANY permits? You sell live animals? I know where I live to sell live animals you need a permit, so please explain why you do not...a few seconds ago.

http://m.facebook.com/story.php?stor...ser=1636241730

More refusal. I'm truthfully surprised that I haven't been banded.

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http://m.facebook.com/story.php?stor...ser=1636241730

More refusal. I'm truthfully surprised that I haven't been banded.

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good work!!!!!!!:salute::salute::banana::gj:
spooky

I'm not sure how many of you remember me, but Alty Edup ForsePanking on the fb post is me. I have had 4 accounts banned so far...let's see how long this one lasts.
Been around, just quietly :)

Has anyone tried reporting them to the government licensing divisions for not having a license?

Most states only require Tax ID Numbers to pay your taxes, Licenses arent required for online sales.

I know states are trying to govern penny auctions as gambling where credit cards will be required to verify age