Can i put 2 male bps in the same tank without problems?

WHO on EARTH would willingly house two snakes together that could FIGHT and combat at any hour of the day and injure each other??? People that would really upset me because, though it is not anything I can control, the poor snakes are the ones who have to end up with the poop end of the stick and suffer.

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Originally Posted by catawhat75

For those of you who do house together, go for it! Don't listen to the advise these people here are giving you, ignore the fact that there are are lots of people with real experience giving you advice when you asked for it. Forget that the worlds leading experts on snake husbandry disagree with you, and for goodness sake, forget how they live in the wild! Oh, and when something happens to your snakes b/c you cant bother with doing what is best for your animals, PLEASE dont complain here!

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That is the best post I have read in awhile. Go ahead people, house snakes together. And when your vet bills double (you find poop that is suspicious and don't know who produced it.. ) When one of your snakes develops an RI and the other one has no isolation from it.. when your mis-sexed snakes breed at 500 grams.. have a good time.

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Originally Posted by aksledneck907

ok well i am the one that started this thread.... i am going to house my bp's seperatly and slowly introduce them to each other. they are both males so hopefully no accidents will occur and thanks for the advice. i will see how they do when they get introduced and maybe see how they do for a night in the same tank then gradually keep them in the same tank but thats going to be over a like 6 month period and they will be feed seperatly. thank you for the advice though

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One thing about this kind of post that make me :mad: is when a person ask for advice, and dismiss every single thing that is being said to do what they intended to do to start with anyway.

Why ask when you have no intention to listen? :rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by aksledneck907

ok well i am the one that started this thread.... i am going to house my bp's seperatly and slowly introduce them to each other. they are both males so hopefully no accidents will occur and thanks for the advice. i will see how they do when they get introduced and maybe see how they do for a night in the same tank then gradually keep them in the same tank but thats going to be over a like 6 month period and they will be feed seperatly. thank you for the advice though

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There are species of snake that under the right conditions - can be housed together.

Ball pythons are not one of these species.

Whatever books you have read, or whatever advice you've received to the contrary, is wrong. Please continue to keep them separated.

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Originally Posted by aksledneck907

ok well i am the one that started this thread.... i am going to house my bp's seperatly and slowly introduce them to each other. they are both males so hopefully no accidents will occur and thanks for the advice. i will see how they do when they get introduced and maybe see how they do for a night in the same tank then gradually keep them in the same tank but thats going to be over a like 6 month period and they will be feed seperatly. thank you for the advice though

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WHY??? WHY WHY WHY??? Seriously, WHY did you come up with this conclusion? If you're going to spend the money on separate cages at the get-go, why not just LEAVE THEM THERE!!!!

Did you even READ this thread?

*deep breath, deep breath.... gets up to take a walk*

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Originally Posted by aksledneck907

ok well i am the one that started this thread.... i am going to house my bp's seperatly and slowly introduce them to each other. they are both males so hopefully no accidents will occur and thanks for the advice. i will see how they do when they get introduced and maybe see how they do for a night in the same tank then gradually keep them in the same tank but thats going to be over a like 6 month period and they will be feed seperatly. thank you for the advice though

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I am with Deborah on this. Like she said, why bother to ask if you aren't going to listen??
I haven't said anything in this thread yet, because the majority of everyone that has posted has said what I would've said. That you should not house those BP's together. In my mind, the thoughts of all the things that could happen far outweigh any supposed "benefit" of keeping them together. As keepers of these snakes, we have to do the best thing that we can for them, and the possibilities of stress, domination, one eating the other, possible breeding, etc. from housing together is NOT doing the best that we can.
You talk about introducing them like they are dogs or cats, THEY ARE NOT. And in my mind, if you are going to house them seperately for about 6 months anyway, why change that??
I'll admit that at one time when I was newer with BP's I thought that it would be no problem to house them together, until I started hearing stories about things that go wrong and seeing the pics of what happens when one eats the other and you end up losing BOTH SNAKES. (By the way does anyone know off hand the link to some of those pics??? I try to look for them again in a little bit...maybe that would help here..) BP's live for about 20-30 yrs, are you going to watch them that closely for that long to make sure nothing happens to them?? You may have the thought of mind that those things won't happen to you, that you will watch your snakes much better than that.... but personally I would rather err on the side of caution and do the best that I can for my snakes. I would rather listen to what the bigger keepers/breeders on this forum have to say about housing snakes, seperate enclosures have worked for them extremely well so I'll take their advice and their experience and use it to benefit my snakes anyday.

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Originally Posted by Sunny1

In my mind, the thoughts of all the things that could happen far outweigh any supposed "benefit" of keeping them together.

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You bring up a good topic.

I don't want to hijack the op's thread but it's not like the op is listening anyway.

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And since there a tons of reasons why NOT to house them together...I have NEVER heard ONE good reason to place them together other than for breeding purposes.

So my question to ANYBODY is...

What are the benefits to housing bp's togther???

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Originally Posted by jeffnme

You bring up a good topic.

I don't want to hijack the op's thread but it's not like the op is listening anyway.

:rolleyes:

And since there a tons of reasons why NOT to house them together...I have NEVER heard ONE good reason to place them together other than for breeding purposes.

So my question to ANYBODY is...

What are the benefits to housing bp's togther???

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For the ball pythons in question: None.

For the owner(s): They get to save a few bucks on caging and heating supplies.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

For the ball pythons in question: None.

For the owner(s): They get to save a few bucks on caging and heating supplies.

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I knew someone would give that as an answer. ;)

but the question is for BP's...

:)

So far...nothing...

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Originally Posted by tweets_4611

It's just over all not a good idea to house more than one snake together. Pet stores don't ususally have the best husbandry for their animals, and so it's not usually a good idea to go by what they do. They are just trying to sell the animals, not raise them into healthy individuals.

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this is not necessarily true a exotics petstore in crestwood missouri houses all snakes seperate and all of they're animals are quite active the beardies like to climb everywhere and the snakes seem genuinely happy. not *raises head* oh another human *falls asleep*