Ball x Burm - Looks like it has been accomplished

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Where are the breeding pics. Just photos of a burm then the so called hybrid..Somethings stinks here.

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Well there isn't any, he kept all 4 animals in the same cage and I don't think he observed copulation. Of course I wouldn't know for sure, my german is a little rusty. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Where are the breeding pics. Just photos of a burm then the so called hybrid..Somethings stinks here.

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I also noted the cage with the albino burm...only had the albino in it (where are the other ones)...and it appeared way to small for 3 other snakes (along with water and such).

Sounds like a load to me.

Hey I happened to accidentally breed a hybrid, and not only that a homogeneous recessive version of that hybrid and all by accident.. is more than likely a dwarf burm het for albino bred to a albino burm.. just my two cents.

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

Something is fishy...if you look closely at the "normals" you will notice they are 2 different snakes. Also, his pictures indicate they are all "Burmballs" or "Burmball Albinos" I think he is trying to say they all came from the same clutch...considering the original post said he had 1.1 burm and 1.1 ball in the same cage...so only 1 female ball was involved. Which makes albino questionable at best. :colbert:

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I agree, there are 2 different snakes pictured. But they don't say how many or what all was produced in the clutch. I don't think the albino is a ball/burm hybrid. But like I stated in the other post, more than one male can sire a clutch. I think there is alot to be questioned, but can't be discredited yet.

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill

I agree, there are 2 different snakes pictured. But they don't say how many or what all was produced in the clutch.

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I looked again and now I see 3 "normals"...if you look at the neck patterns on each you will see they are different.

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I don't think the albino is a ball/burm hybrid. But like I stated in the other post, more than one male can sire a clutch. I think there is alot to be questioned, but can't be discredited yet.

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I agree...him calling the albino a hybrid throws everything into question.;)

He probably doesn't know. Hey, he's keeping 4 different snakes of two different species in the same cage, how knowledgable can he be?

Females can lay clutches that were sired by mutiple fathers, it happens all the time. So, yes I can see the possibility that a female albino (or het albino) burm could drop a clutch that had both a male albino(or het) burm and a male ball python as the fathers.

That odd patterned one doesn't look like either a burm or ball pattern, I think it's possible that one could be a hybrid, however that pic of the baby albino looks like pure burm to me. But taking the above into account, I think it's possible that they could be from the same clutch, but have different fathers.

Mark

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Sounds like a load to me.

Hey I happened to accidentally breed a hybrid, and not only that a homogeneous recessive version of that hybrid and all by accident.. is more than likely a dwarf burm het for albino bred to a albino burm.. just my two cents.

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Just curious as to where you came up with that at. This guy obviously isn't too bright from the start so I doubt he would spend the HUGE $$$ it would take to get a dwarf burm in the first place let alone a het albino dwarf burm.

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Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread

Just curious as to where you came up with that at. This guy obviously isn't too bright from the start so I doubt he would spend the HUGE $$$ it would take to get a dwarf burm in the first place let alone a het albino dwarf burm.

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I agree was just a thought..

IF these are genuine then i just think :puke: on these hybrids , i dont like them tbh...not my thing hybrids , natural intergration (Jungle x Diamonds and others for example) is fair enough imo as its a happens naturally in the wild but burmballs , superballs etc is just http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/images/smilies/crazy.gif id never own a hybrid myself but whatever floats your rubber ducky http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/images/smilies/lol.gif

Yeah I dont think I could beleive the albino hybrid until I see breeding pics. I also dont like the concept of hybrids in most animals due to some being sterile are messing up the gene pool of most of its species.
Nick Sloan