Feeding Live....

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Originally Posted by bpkid

Sooo... what do you consider them as?

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rodents whose only point in being in my house is to be eaten by a snake. they are food just as is all the meat in my freezer. The animals were raised to be eaten. However they die, they die. I think giving them a hard whack and either killing or stunning them is much less painful as being constricted and gasping for air for a few minutes.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

rodents whose only point in being in my house is to be eaten by a snake. they are food just as is all the meat in my freezer. The animals were raised to be eaten. However they die, they die. I think giving them a hard whack and either killing or stunning them is much less painful as being constricted and gasping for air for a few minutes.

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How very caring and respectful. :rockon:

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Its not hard to understand at all. Its just that Whacking is also quicker and what I would consider less painfull than constriction

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Ok, this is not about what your opinion is on whether or not "whacking" is humane. Your opinion is completely irrelevent.

The AVMA does not approve blunt force trauma of rodents as a humane method of euthanasia. Why are you going to debate the opinion of vets and scientists?

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

rodents whose only point in being in my house is to be eaten by a snake. they are food just as is all the meat in my freezer. The animals were raised to be eaten. However they die, they die. I think giving them a hard whack and either killing or stunning them is much less painful as being constricted and gasping for air for a few minutes.

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This is definately one of the reasons people such as PETA,animal activists, and reptile hating people hate us reptile people. They think we are all cruel and act like rodents are nothing. You have to respect your snake's food, whether a mouse, or a big rat. Without the rats or mice, you would probably have NO snake.

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Originally Posted by bpkid

This is definately one of the reasons people such as PETA,animal activists, and reptile hating people hate us reptile people. They think we are all cruel and act like rodents are nothing. You have to respect your snake's food, whether a mouse, or a big rat. Without the rats or mice, you would probably have NO snake.

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I would do my best to swap to gerbils :)

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Originally Posted by bpkid

This is definately one of the reasons people such as PETA,animal activists, and reptile hating people hate us reptile people. They think we are all cruel and act like rodents are nothing. You have to respect your snake's food, whether a mouse, or a big rat. Without the rats or mice, you would probably have NO snake.

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This is true.
I'm an animal rights activist but I also love reptiles. Everyone always asks me how I can be both. The way I see it is that I have a choice of what I can eat to survive, snakes do not. I have to feed them rodents so I do it the most humane way possible which is F/T.

I can see why some activists get upset with herpers when there are people talking about 'whacking' and 'stunning'.

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Originally Posted by bpkid

This is definately one of the reasons people such as PETA,animal activists, and reptile hating people hate us reptile people. They think we are all cruel and act like rodents are nothing. You have to respect your snake's food, whether a mouse, or a big rat. Without the rats or mice, you would probably have NO snake.

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What I've said in almost everyone of my post on this subject.
We have to make sure we explain to people that no, not all snake owners practice this kind of feeding, I dont want anyone to think I would ever be caught dead feeding my snakes that way, but people that dont know anything about snakes and have never owned one will think every person who owns a snake sits around on feeding day smacking rats in the head until they die....thats not something I want to be known for.

Whacking isn't a barbaric act at all. One good smack and a rat is dead, I could give a rats arse what the AVMA says about blunt force trama. The rat suffers little to none at all. Shen you see a rat get bit constricted and get out of the coils and run off, you'll see what inhumane is. I will continue to whack rats in a way that they don't suffer as opposed to feed live.

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Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread

Whacking isn't a barbaric act at all. One good smack and a rat is dead, I could give a rats arse what the AVMA says about blunt force trama. The rat suffers little to none at all. Shen you see a rat get bit constricted and get out of the coils and run off, you'll see what inhumane is. I will continue to whack rats in a way that they don't suffer as opposed to feed live.

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Some people will never be convinced, regardless of the proof...

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Some people will never be convinced, regardless of the proof...

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WHat proof?