Re: Did I end up getting a female pastel from the tampa show?
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Originally Posted by Rapture
I subconsciously treat them all differently depending on their individual behavior.
PERFECT!
-adam
Re: Did I end up getting a female pastel from the tampa show?
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Originally Posted by djslurp1200
So pardon me for sounding stupid for asking this but i'm going to...
SO under extreme supervision Its fine to throw in a live rat in my tank with all the branches, hides and other obstructions?
Less stressful on the snake and rat?
I don't think you sound stupid. Yes, if you supervise, it is preferred to just feed your snake in its own home without disrupting any of its usual environment. To minimize any chances of your snake getting bit, do the following:
1. Watch
2. Make sure the rat is fed and watered
3. Try not to freak the rat out any more than necessary...a "relaxed" rat is not going to be so immediately defensive.
4. Learn your snake's eating style...so you'll know exactly when to take the rat out of the enclosure. For instance, if my snake is going to eat, she will hit the rat as soon as it reaches her tub. If she doesn't show immediate interest, the rat will not stay in her tub for more than 2-3 minutes. If you have a slow eater, you may have to be willing to watch and wait a little longer, but you'll learn how to tell if they are interested in eating that day or not.
No one is picking on you in this thread....just trying to help you think through some reasoning on some old myths that are still circulating. If you (and anyone else reading this) understand the reasons WHY the myths are incorrect, then they are more likely to eventually die away, and you'll have a better overall understanding of your snake.
Re: Did I end up getting a female pastel from the tampa show?
Thank you for the helpful information...
As far as the picking on me thing, I don't think anybody is. I just want people to understand someone gave me wrongful information and I took it in because I didn't know myself. I am one of those people where I want to know as much as I can about something. Especially if I'm responsible for a living breathing animal. I want to know the most I can about ball pythons. I mean, I love my ball pythons so much. When it comes to owning a pet I want to say so badly that these are the best to own.
no barking, I don't have to take it out, I don't have to pick up after it, No chewing of my stuff, No litter box and I only have to feed 'em once a week.
What more could you want from a pet lol...
Re: Did I end up getting a female pastel from the tampa show?
:cens0r: the people giving out the wrong information!!!
AND MOST OF THE TIME ITS PETSTORES!!!
Re: Did I end up getting a female pastel from the tampa show?
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Originally Posted by djslurp1200
Can't knock me for trying to learn and asking questions.
Only TRYING to do the right thing. I just need to be more cautious in who I ask.
But thats why I like coming on here because I can get multiple answers from different people who have the experience.
So guess what i really should be saying is thank you for the people correcting me in what i'm doing wrong. (I just want to do the right things for my snakes)
Sometimes we are very direct with our responses, and I assure you, its not an attack on you as an individual. Some of us sugar-coat things in our responses and other do not. That's awesome you are able to take in the info objectively regardless of its delivery and you will fit in very well here being able to do so. Glad we were able to help.
Re: Did I end up getting a female pastel from the tampa show?
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Originally Posted by elevatethis
So you do feed or don't feed in a seperate enclosure now?
I don't have any balls I feed outside their regular rack tub right now.
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I don't agree at all. Ball pythons by nature are ambush predators and are acutely designed to nailing rodents with plenty of "environmental interference." They are very in tune with their surroundings, and altering their surroundings (by removing the snake from them) may cause their feeding response to turn off.
Your taking this a direction I don't care to go...getting into what's "natural" and talking about how ball pythons are designed to survive in the wild is well... somewhat out of our context of conversation. We are not feeding these snkes in the wild obviously, and the act of feeding captive animals would be considered a controlled environment...nothing like the situations the wild counterparts would be subject to. In the ball pythons I've had that started out on live I've had no issues feeding them in a seperate container and usually covered to block out light and outside distractions. As well I still have some that started this way and have been adapted to take pre-killed with no issues. -You can agree or disagree, this is simply what I have experienced...and that's not made up.
I can see Adam's point on causing more stress in some animals. I will definately take that into consideration when I have another "live feeder" that will not accept anything else. My motives are simply that I when in the rack system I can't see what a live rodent may be doing as well through the plastic tub. I want to know for darn sure what is happening and I don't like the idea of opening and closing a tub drawer as that will no doubt cause serious stress and possible accidents.
This is an honest question and I am not trying anyone's knowledge on what is "right" or "wrong". Isn't it possible that a live feeding snake could get stressed out just as by having a live rodent in its enclosure where it generally feels "safe"? This is directed at live only now.
Respectully
-TW
Re: Did I end up getting a female pastel from the tampa show?
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Originally Posted by djslurp1200
:cens0r: the people giving out the wrong information!!!
AND MOST OF THE TIME ITS PETSTORES!!!
That's just the way it is. I don't get mad about it....but maybe I'm used to it and jaded to it by now. I know there are a few truly good and knowledgeable pet stores out there...but for the most part, they don't know a thing about the animals they sell...especially anything that's not warm blooded. Just realize that and consider anything they tell you about how to care for your animal as suspect.
Re: Did I end up getting a female pastel from the tampa show?
I was given wrongful information about feeding in the cage. I have since then changed my mind about it. That was earlier on in the thread before finding out that it was a myth that a petstore had passed on to me.
(sad thing was, it was a reptile store who told me)
Re: Did I end up getting a female pastel from the tampa show?
I figured that much about petco and petland and such but...
I got my information from a reptile store...That's what kinda upsets me.
I'm not raging angry but I am dissapointed
Re: Did I end up getting a female pastel from the tampa show?
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Originally Posted by elevatethis
Sometimes we are very direct with our responses, and I assure you, its not an attack on you as an individual. Some of us sugar-coat things in our responses and other do not. That's awesome you are able to take in the info objectively regardless of its delivery and you will fit in very well here being able to do so. Glad we were able to help.
Believe me I work in sales...lol
Nothing anybody says is really going to offend me. Say what you will about my methods of care wether its right or wrong I APPRECIATE the constructive critisism. If it can be said in a not so direct response stating what i'm doing right or wrong awesome. Otherwise at the end of the day I'm still learning.
Thats why I'm here.
