Disturbing trend...

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Originally Posted by jotay

WHAT!?!
I made reference to people , yeah people, and like I said I am not gonna call them by name. I will send them private messages if I feel the need to. If you don't get one then you don't need to worry who the others are

And no one said anything about your post. My posts are my opinion on this topic as a whole not just your post. I am entitled to post my opinion like others aren't I ?

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Well I for one can't wait...Its like Publisher's Clearinghouse time. Will I get the PM? :D

Ahhhh....see you will just have to wait and see if your the big weiner! ;)

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Originally Posted by jotay

Ahhhh....see you will just have to wait and see if your the big weiner! ;)

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:rofl: Good one!!! :rofl:

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Originally Posted by jotay

Ahhhh....see you will just have to wait and see if your the big weiner! ;)

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Oh, I already KNOW that I am the big weiner, I don't need you to tell me that. But still the anticipation kills me... :partyon:

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Originally Posted by Sputnik

"Expert," is usually a term given to a person by themself!





There is something new to be learned everyday... no matter how experienced or inexperienced a person is. And sometimes that can come a from a person with either levels of experience.


The positive to bad advice being handed out is that it is corrected very quickly. The positive to good advice being handed out is that there is a lot of it here!

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I agree with this 100% I don't feel that anyone is an "expert" at anything. Even the most experienced breeders and keepers are still learning. These threads are open discussions that are open for anybody to comment and a person's level of experience should not discredit them as long as they don't self proclaim themselves as an "expert" and give bad advise.

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Originally Posted by Bdadawg

Instead of referring someone to the search function it is much better to do the search ... post the links ... and tell them you found them by doing a search. This is going to make people want to stick around because you are attempting to help them. I take the most common questions I see about frozen feeders ... write an article on one of my websites, and then copy and paste info into threads and refer people to my site to answer the other related questions.

Bryan

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I don't think anyone was saying that using the search function should be the answer given for questions. As for me , in my original statement I said it should be "encouraged" and that is exactly what you have done by doing the search and then telling them how you found the links you posted. I don't think that encouraging something would make people feel unwelcome as long as you post the message in a friendly manner.

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

I really disagree with this statement. There's nothing I dislike more than attempting to learn about a new critter, joining a forum and when I post getting the response "use the search function" and that's the end of their post!

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I know what you mean by that statement. I have seen it done on other forum sites as well, but I didn't mean for people to say use the search function and end their post. The key point I was making was to encourage its use. What Bryan had above is a way I think it can be done without making someone feel unwelcome.:sweeet:

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My whole start on the "expert" thing was because I have been on here for, oh, about 3 yrs now and I remember some of the "experts" not to long ago ( say under a year) coming on here as newbies and asking all the traditional newbie questions. Now they are handing out advice like they wrote the complete ball python book or something and sometimes there advice is not always 1. the only way or 2. the best way.

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So let me follow you here...For example, are you saying that you have an objection to someone with a copy of 'The Complete Ball Python' giving out advice straight from the book in front of them, especially in a situation where they've had no personal experience? I highly doubt anyone doing that appreciates you accusing them of thinking of themselves as an "expert." That person is going out of their way to get an answer to the person asking the question. Jotay, if I were a new user, I'd be somewhat weary of taking advice from you- you've got what, 1 male ball? How well rounded of an experience can you have? Thats not an attack- just an illustration.

I think the issue here is more about *how* someone gives advice, the quality of that advice, and how that person reacts to being corrected in case they are wrong.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

I think the issue here is more about *how* someone gives advice, the quality of that advice, and how that person reacts to being corrected in case they are wrong.

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Well put!

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/imag...ine=1152910255

Thanks cue....Jimmy needs love too.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

I think the issue here is more about *how* someone gives advice, the quality of that advice, and how that person reacts to being corrected in case they are wrong.

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Exactly!!