RIP Whitney Houston...

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Originally Posted by kyote19

Yea well they haven't stated her cause of death yet so why don't all of you ease off the gas with the insensitive comments of her dying as a 'crackhead'
You don't know how she died yet, and no matter what it looks like it could turn out to be something else not related so lay off.
:(R.I.P Whitney

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Past history will always define a person, she was a crackhead no matter how you look at it.

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Originally Posted by Strick

Rough Crowd here!...Addictions of any kind are a tough road. They will sneak up, grab you and take over your life. It's tough to let them go. It takes a lot of courage and will to deal with it but it can be done. Does that make them a bad person? Not always...

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I wont get into my person history here BUT any addictions can be over come IF you want to.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

What i dont get is how these so called ppl in entertainment think they have such a hard life.

Such a hard live making/made Millions that we could only dream of, and struggling to make ends meet.

I have no sympathy over any drug abusers regardless if their on tv or not using it for an excuse of hard times.

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Money doesnt always make you happy, especially if you are alone in life.;) Either physically or mentally.

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Originally Posted by CatandDiallo

Millions of dollars ≠ happiness.

I dislike this argument. They live very different lives than we do. Michael Jackson made who knows how much money.. would you say that he didn't have a hard life because of his messed up childhood?

Not condoning her drug use, but there is always more to it than meets the eye.

Don't take your privacy for granted.

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They know the cost but want the fame, it is still a choice they make.

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Originally Posted by pigfat

I was JUST lip singing "I will Always Love You" because it was on the radio about 30 minutes before the news came out, then I get a text saying she had died....it was crazy.

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That IS Dollys song and always will be.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Wow - there really are some judgemental people here. ANY loss of life is sad.

One of my co-workers is dying of lung cancer - the doctors literally gave her 5-7 days last Friday. She is the most generous, loving, selfless person I've ever known, and when she passes, it will be a loss to a lot of us who love her. She was a smoker. Would those of you who judge Whitney Houston say that you have no sympathy for my friend and her family because she "brought it on herself"?

I'm sorry - money does NOT make someone happy. If it does, that makes someone very shallow to say that money is enough to make you a happy person. Does it relieve a lot of financial stress? Yes it does. But does it bring happiness into your life? No, it does not.

None of us have had the same life experience that Whitney Houston did. To stand in judgement of her and her ultimate demise is pathetic at best. All of you judging her and her manner of death, you have led a pristine life that allows you to be so judgemental? None of you have made poor choices in your life that you regret? None of you have experienced clinical depression?

She left behind a mother, a daughter, family members who love her. And that's tragic. Just as the death of our hero's in the military is tragic, just as the death of my beloved friend is going to be tragic.

I'm shocked by the lack of compassion in this thread and the vitriol I've read. Seriously.

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Would I feel sorry for your friend? No (We all bring on our vices, I smoked for 20ish years knowing the possible outcome) Will I feel sorry for her family? Yes, because they are going to have to watch her die a slow horrible death, she is not just going to go to sleep and not wake up. I am not bashing you but I am just a person that accepts death and the reasons why it happens.

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

Just because you are allowed to speak, doesn't mean you always should. To everyone who has been bashing the dead, have a little respect.

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Respect is a word that is thrown around a lot. Remembering a persons history can be viewed as a sign of respect, weather good or bad.


I sure quoted a lot here:O:O
Either way, some may miss her, I will not mainly because she did not have an impact on my family or my life. She died doing what she loved best be it either singing or smoking.;)

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Originally Posted by rabernet

I'm shocked by the lack of compassion in this thread and the vitriol I've read. Seriously.

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I'm sorry, but I don't see how calling a spade a spade shows a lack of compassion. Facts by their very nature can not be perdudicial. The woman killed herself via her own actions.

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Originally Posted by Slim

I'm sorry, but I don't see how calling a spade a spade shows a lack of compassion. Facts by their very nature can not be perdudicial. The woman killed herself via her own actions.

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They haven't even released the autopsy results yet. You have no facts, unless you have some sort of special access that no one else does?

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Originally Posted by rabernet

They haven't even released the autopsy results yet. You have no facts, unless you have some sort of special access that no one else does?

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When a person gets ejected through the windshield of their car, it's no great leap of faith the say they weren't wearing a seat belt...even with out autopsy results :rolleyes:

And it is a fact that the woman was a drug addict, and not just any drug addict...she was the kind of drug addict that other drug addicts looked at and decided to sobber up.

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Originally Posted by Slim

When a person gets ejected through the windshield of their car, it's no great leap of faith the say they weren't wearing a seat belt...even with out autopsy results :rolleyes:

And it is a fact that the woman was a drug addict, and not just any drug addict...she was the kind of drug addict that other drug addicts looked at and decided to sobber up.

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Oh well, have fun sitting in your seat of judgement.

Even if it turns out the drug addiction took her life, for ME, that doesn't make the event any sadder or less tragic. I don't know what demons she was fighting in her life, but I can at least proffer my empathy for her and her family.

It's a tragic waste to see such a shining star burn out in the way that it did, no matter what the reason. And since I never walked in her shoes, it would behoove me not to judge her, particularly, since I've never lived under the microscope of fame, and I don't know what stresses and demons she dealt with on a day to day basis.

I guess if you've lived a perfect life - then judge away. Otherwise, you might want to look inside your own dirty closet and wonder if you'd want others to judge you the way some of you have judged her.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

I guess if you've lived a perfect life - then judge away. Otherwise, you might want to look inside your own dirty closet and wonder if you'd want others to judge you the way some of you have judged her.

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Robin, I have not lived a perfect life, far from it, but that doesn't mean I don't have the right and responsibility to judge the world the people around me. I expect no less in return, and have been judged for my actions my whole life. No one gets a free pass.

Logic dictates that not judging the people and the world around you is akin to sticking your cranium in the sand and trusting that everything will be alright.

The whole, "Judge not, lest ye be judged" line of reasoning has it's roots in Christian mythology. While I find those stories fascinating, Christian mythology doesn't dictate how I live my life anymore than Norse, Greek, Roman, Celtic, or Hindu mythology does.

I wont get into my person history here BUT any addictions can be over come IF you want to.





My point exactly! Not everyone wins their battle though. Seems a lot of folks here have already passed judgement and the official cause has not even been released. I wont say anymore Rabernet already stated it really well...

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Oh well, have fun sitting in your seat of judgement.

Even if it turns out the drug addiction took her life, for ME, that doesn't make the event any sadder or less tragic. I don't know what demons she was fighting in her life, but I can at least proffer my empathy for her and her family.

It's a tragic waste to see such a shining star burn out in the way that it did, no matter what the reason. And since I never walked in her shoes, it would behoove me not to judge her, particularly, since I've never lived under the microscope of fame, and I don't know what stresses and demons she dealt with on a day to day basis.

I guess if you've lived a perfect life - then judge away. Otherwise, you might want to look inside your own dirty closet and wonder if you'd want others to judge you the way some of you have judged her.

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I don't think anybody is judging her I think we are being real. Was she a good person? No in my opinion she was selfish had she really loved her daughter or family she would not be a twenty year alcohol and drug abuser knowing full well the possible outcome might be. Ok maybe I am being a little judgemental but how could you not. I am not a self righteous person but I think I am a realist. I don't pretend to love or even like everybody I don't think anybody could. Someone called us haters in a earlier post nobody said they hated her just did not feel sorry for her. I think we all have judged.Negative or positive we all have a right to our opinion even if it does not fit your mold. I stand by my earlier posts.