price dropping

Most of you guys have never tried to sell high end Ball Pythons I have Ive gotton my price sometimes but most of the time not, they are only worth what somebody is willing to pay period if the money seems fair I will sell If not the stay in my rack or I make trades with other breeders. It is what it is I see people sell poor sad looking animals for top dollar & then get low balled on real nice stuff that I have thats what agravates me.

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Originally Posted by greghall

Most of you guys have never tried to sell high end Ball Pythons I have Ive gotton my price sometimes but most of the time not, they are only worth what somebody is willing to pay period if the money seems fair I will sell If not the stay in my rack or I make trades with other breeders. It is what it is I see people sell poor sad looking animals for top dollar & then get low balled on real nice stuff that I have thats what agravates me.

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How it is, They low ball you on yours cause the other guy who cant sell his low quality of same morph, drops his price. Then others come to you saying well i can get same snake for so and so much cheaper. And when you come back and say no thanks, They get pissed and say your a ripoff and your not gonna sell for that.

Happened a lot this year to me on just base morphs in the 100-800$ range. If you cant afford the snake, what makes me feel as if you can afford its care.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

How it is, They low ball you on yours cause the other guy who cant sell his low quality of same morph, drops his price. Then others come to you saying well i can get same snake for so and so much cheaper. And when you come back and say no thanks, They get pissed and say your a ripoff and your not gonna sell for that.

Happened a lot this year to me on just base morphs in the 100-800$ range. If you cant afford the snake, what makes me feel as if you can afford its care.

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I know plenty of people that love and care for their Normal BP's more then some others do for Mid Level Mutations.
I do not agree that because someone can not afford an expensive animal, they would not love and care for it as well as, or even better then someone that can drop the cash without batting an eye.

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Originally Posted by rjk890

I know plenty of people that love and care for their Normal BP's more then some others do for Mid Level Mutations.
I do not agree that because someone can not afford an expensive animal, they would not love and care for it as well as, or even better then someone that can drop the cash without batting an eye.

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Vet bills are very costly with exotics, If a snakes price is too much for one to endure paying for it, to go to the lengths of low ball, what makes you think they are able to properly care for it, and ensure it stays healthy or needs vet care. Are they going to haggle the vet too.

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Pointless thread.

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Originally Posted by hurricaNe

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How is it pointless? It has more facts then most other threads out there. No one said you had to read it...

I have real high end nice well cared for animals I produced,& it pisses me off when they will go a few tables down & get a skinny smaller animal from a flipper & then come back & say look what I got for $$$ man that really gets me, but glad my stuff didnt go with those kind of people! rather deal with basement breeders & mid level guys all day because they know what thety want & are willing to pay or trade for what its worth!

Still got most of my high end stuff keeping it rather than give it away,double triple gene animals,anything over $300 has been a hard sell for me I guess because I dont have a huge name & just a basement hobbiest.trades have been good from my fellow basement breeders;)

Gregg. You said the most important comment so far. They are only worth what someone is willing to pay. I have seen this industry go from the basement to the mainsyream and its always the same thing. A morph comes out, it gets mass priduced and the prices drop. It shouldnt be any shock. Supply and demand. And to comment on richs point on care. He is totally right. If you are haggling over a 100 dollar snake that is poor quality there is no way your gonna afford the vet bills. 75 to 125 bucks just to walk in the door. A visit for resp can go through the roof.

Maybe I'm taking it for granted but I presume all sellers build in a negotiating buffer into their price. A lot of people do not want to pay the asking price and will haggle. Most people will not pay above the going rate but that's ok. The target market for a superior snake is an experienced hobbyist or breeder that's looking for quality, not the average guy.

As an example - does the price of quality dogs go down because of the backyard breeders selling their puppies way below market value? Nope. People that know seek out quality bloodlines. It should work similarly for morphs.

I'm not an expert. I'm just thinking out loud. :)