Tarantulas and Spiders

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Originally Posted by carlson

I guess this is how a t says leave it empty dumb a$$http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/23/6ejydyja.jpg

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I know how you feel, Nicky....im losing a neverending battle with my b.smthi and my irminia....both insist the waterbowl gets emptied n filled with dirt. :(

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Originally Posted by kat_black181

Why native? I'm just curious because I've never kept any insects before.

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They're more aggressive and people underestimate their speed so much that they can get loose and they'll cause serious damage to native wildlife because a lot of the Asian ones have some serious venomous bites. So native for beginner to get used to their speed and stuff so if it gets out it won't cause too much havoc. Plus you don't want like say a vietnamese centipede loose in your house. Asian ones are generally bigger as well. So factor all that in and you'll understand why.

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Originally Posted by Neal

They're more aggressive and people underestimate their speed so much that they can get loose and they'll cause serious damage to native wildlife because a lot of the Asian ones have some serious venomous bites. So native for beginner to get used to their speed and stuff so if it gets out it won't cause too much havoc. Plus you don't want like say a vietnamese centipede loose in your house. Asian ones are generally bigger as well. So factor all that in and you'll understand why.

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That definitely sounds creepy. I don't think I want a centipede at all now... lol

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Originally Posted by 4theSNAKElady

I know how you feel, Nicky....im losing a neverending battle with my b.smthi and my irminia....both insist the waterbowl gets emptied n filled with dirt. :(

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I have stops trying to hard. Couple times a week ill fill it an she empty it an now its part of the house since I took out the wood lol

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Wondering if the little white dots I see are mold forming. She still smaller than I wanted to re house cuz she hides if I open the cage

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I have kept some native centipedes and I just can't get into them. I never saw them. There are some really cool ones out there but just not my thing.

Kat if you want a T, let me know and we can work out a great deal.

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Originally Posted by 3skulls

I have kept some native centipedes and I just can't get into them. I never saw them. There are some really cool ones out there but just not my thing.

Kat if you want a T, let me know and we can work out a great deal.

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Ok, I do think I want one. I'm gonna do some research and see what's best for me. I think I'd want one that's kinda big but still nice. :-) lol

Brazilian giant white knee or Mexican red knee. I like those two.

3skulls is really nice to deal with; he'll answer all your questions.

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Originally Posted by Mephibosheth1

3skulls is really nice to deal with; he'll answer all your questions.

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From what I've seen, that is definitely the case. :-)

Dude get a T they're so sick! What type do you want? Tell us what you like so we can start suggesting and peer pressuring you! :p

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Dude get a T they're so sick! What type do you want? Tell us what you like so we can start suggesting and peer pressuring you! :p

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Brazilian giant white knee, Mexican red knee, or Mexican fire leg... I like those 3.

Out of those id recommend one of the brachy's before the A. genic. The whiteknee females can get up to like 8-9". If you're ok with that then go for it, i just wanted to make sure you knew that lol.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Out of those id recommend one of the brachy's before the A. genic. The whiteknee females can get up to like 8-9". If you're ok with that then go for it, i just wanted to make sure you knew that lol.

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I like the big ones. That would be fine with me if it got that big. And I like that they don't burrow a lot. I want to be able to see it.

L. parahybana if you want a big T.

Any of the above are going to burrow when smaller but make great display animals once they get some size.

They all can and or will kick hairs.
Care is easy and pretty much the same for them.

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Originally Posted by 3skulls

L. parahybana if you want a big T.

Any of the above are going to burrow when smaller but make great display animals once they get some size.

They all can and or will kick hairs.
Care is easy and pretty much the same for them.

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They aren't recommended for beginners. Should I get one of those as my first???

IMO, I think LPs are listed better as a 2nd or 3rd T but most people wouldn't have any problem as a 1st.

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Because of their size. Won't really be a problem if you are looking for something big. They grow fast but don't become monsters overnight. If you start small and "grow" with it, you shouldn't have a problem. Mine are around 4-5" and I have had them for 18months give or take. Bought them around 1/2"
They can be nasty at times, same with all of the above. They can kick hairs, same as all of the above.

If you don't want something that gets as big as the others and a bit more docile. I can't recommend a G. pulchripes enough. They are (IMO) one of the best Ts out there. Good size, good temperament (its still a T), very pretty, make good display T (when it gets some size) and very easy to care for.

I would put Black & Whites, Red & Whites, White Knees in with the LPs. All can be nasty, all can be pretty bad kickers. They get a pretty good size, LPs being bigger. They all need a steady supply of food.

Some growth rates of what I have worked with. 18 month span. All approximate. Kept around lower 80s and fed once a week.
G. pulchripes .25"- 3"+
B. smithi .25" - 2"
G. rosea .25" - 1.5"
LP .5"- 5"

Its really up to you and what you would be comfortable with. They all have lower venom but I don't want to get bit by any of them. At adult size their fangs will be huge.
Every spider is quick. When you read something saying is a slow species, they are comparing it to an even faster spider.

Never plan on picking out a T that you want to hold. There are more docile Ts but they have individual personalities. Example, I would not hold my B. smithi. She is a hair kicker and attacks her water dish when I'm filling it.

Now I feel like I'm rambling. Hope that helps some.
Any questions just let us know!

It helps a whole lot! Gives me some things to think about. Thanks so much. :-)

No problem. I love talking spiders and makes me happy to turn people on to them.

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Originally Posted by 3skulls

No problem. I love talking spiders and makes me happy to turn people on to them.

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Do you have the ones I mentioned?

And the hairs, do I only have to worry about that if the spider is annoyed?

I them all besides the A. genticulata

You have to worry about them any time you are working around the spider or in the cage. It bothers some people really bad, doesn't affect others.
Me... My LPs will make me itch when working with them. If I touch their bowls, molts etc. I'll get blisters under my skin on my hands.
Same with my. B. smithi. The others are still to small to tell.
Now take into account that when I'm working with them, I'm working with a lot of spiders :p
A pair of latex gloves wouldn't be a bad idea. After a rehousing, dumping the old substrate into a trash can outside would be another good idea.

There are some people out there that will only keep Old World because of the hairs.

I think I could deal with the hairs better than a really nasty bite.

You can get a rosehair as a starter T. They're pretty chill and don't really flick hairs. Just wash your hands after handling and don't just bring your hands to your eyes.

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Originally Posted by Neal

You can get a rosehair as a starter T. They're pretty chill and don't really flick hairs. Just wash your hands after handling and don't just bring your hands to your eyes.

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I have read everywhere that rosehairs are boring...

I had one for 20+ years and I wouldn't think of her as boring. Once again its up to personality.
She also gave me a few good threat poses before. :p

The little one I have now is always out looking around.

They are a good first T. The main thing you have to keep in mind is how long they can go off feed. It's like a person getting a BP for a first snake. Sometimes people start to freak and changing things up adding unneeded stress.

There are also a lot of people that will call them boring because a lot of people have them. I think they are underrated.

does sling mean spiderling?

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Originally Posted by kat_black181

I have read everywhere that rosehairs are boring...

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I really like our rosey. She has quite the personality! She's a little on the feisty side, likes to rear back when we fill her water dish lol. And she's a beast with the crickets! I think she's pretty cool, but I have VERY limited experience with Ts

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Originally Posted by cory9oh4

does sling mean spiderling?

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Yep.

I want to watch it eat, though!

Mine likes to take the heads off of crickets :) Trust me, you'll be able to watch it eat

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Originally Posted by kat_black181

I want to watch it eat, though!

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You can watch them eat. They snatch crickets/roaches up and hold them while eating.

I still like the original 3 I named a lot better I think.

I would get an A. genic then!

EDIT: checkout the nhandu genus too. Nhandu chromatus look similar to the genics when they mature. They just have red booties and dont get as big.

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

I would get an A. genic then!

EDIT: checkout the nhandu genus too. Nhandu chromatus look similar to the genics when they mature. They just have red booties and dont get as big.

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Ok, white knee it is. :-)

I will look at those, too. But, I need to start off with just one to get my feet wet.

Only if Rich doesnt have any A. geniculata let me know I can help with that.

Lol! Gimme a couple weeks. I have a new snake coming, so I need to get him in and settled first.

OBT female #2

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http://youtu.be/CnLGCXIGqEQ

2
http://youtu.be/llHcepRgp_o

3
http://youtu.be/HW_NJ62y_dM

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Originally Posted by kat_black181

Lol! Gimme a couple weeks. I have a new snake coming, so I need to get him in and settled first.

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Oh, you'll have a nice big list by then :P

Did the OBT make it out???

They should have long-handled tongs and stuff at the expo I'm going to, right??

Just trying to see if I should get them now or wait until I get to the expo.

Also about temperature...it's getting towards wintertime here, and my folks let the house get cold...should I get a UTH for my T??

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Originally Posted by Kitty Softpaws

Oh, you'll have a nice big list by then :P

Did the OBT make it out???

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I'm sorry? I don't have an OBT.

You should be able to get tongs at the show Meph.

The OBT did make it out :)
He took off and I caught him. I'm hoping I can pair him a couple more time with each female. Then hope they don't molt.

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Originally Posted by 3skulls

The OBT did make it out :)
He took off and I caught him. I'm hoping I can pair him a couple more time with each female. Then hope they don't molt.

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Hes so much smaller looking than the girl ha. He likes to bolt when its time to come out it seems?

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Originally Posted by carlson

Hes so much smaller looking than the girl ha. He likes to bolt when its time to come out it seems?

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Girls get bigger and live a lot longer. They also cost more if verified.

Oh yeah. As soon as its over he knows to get out of there.

When I get my spider, do I have to get it as a tiny baby?

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Originally Posted by kat_black181

When I get my spider, do I have to get it as a tiny baby?

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No lol. I just got a 1.5" A. genic at an expo for $30

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

No lol. I just got a 1.5" A. genic at an expo for $30

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Ok. I think I'd be a bit scared to have a tiny spider as my first. I'd be scared of accidentally squashing it.

Also, is it better to get a female since they live longer?

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Originally Posted by kat_black181

Ok. I think I'd be a bit scared to have a tiny spider as my first. I'd be scared of accidentally squashing it.

Also, is it better to get a female since they live longer?

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Yes, like i told meph, id look at T's around 3/4"-1". Slings that size will already be eating more normal sized prey.

You can, but you cant usually sex tarantulas until theyre 3"+. Get one and if it ends up being a male sell it to breed and get something else. Or get 3 slings and your chances of getting at least 1 female goes up a lot ;)

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Yes, like i told meph, id look at T's around 3/4"-1". Slings that size will already be eating more normal sized prey.

You can, but you cant usually sex tarantulas until theyre 3"+. Get one and if it ends up being a male sell it to breed and get something else. Or get 3 slings and your chances of getting at least 1 female goes up a lot ;)

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I'll love it just the same. lol I can't get 3 right now. I'm gonna run outta room where I can fit creatures if I'm not careful!