Yafe - Albino Carpet - FINAL - Progression Thread

Yafe came out to play tonight and Katie took some quick pics. He's well over 300G and thickening up. He's also getting even more mellow. He's not as jumpy and tends to relax in my arms instead of darting around like he used to. He still has his moments, but he really seems to be chilling a little more.

I am considering moving him to a every 2 week feeding schedule, instead of 1X a week. Any thoughts? Should I wait until he's bigger? I know he's not a boa and he will put it towards growth, but I also know as adults they eat every 2-3 weeks.

Anyway, here is my healthy and growing boy.

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If you know that these eat every 2-3 weeks as adults (& I haven't researched this, I'm taking your word for it), then I agree, it might be time to lengthen the
time between his meals to more like 2 weeks- if not now, then in the near future. It's nice to see how well he's doing with handling too- pretty fellow.:gj:

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If you know that these eat every 2-3 weeks as adults (& I haven't researched this, I'm taking your word for it), then I agree, it might be time to lengthen the
time between his meals to more like 2 weeks- if not now, then in the near future. It's nice to see how well he's doing with handling too- pretty fellow.:gj:

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Some breeders feed every other week from a young age.

I will see what carpet keepers here say, but I think he’s ready for every two weeks. Plus, everyone in that stack of tanks eats every two weeks now anyway. Feliz, Figment, and Yafe are in that stack along with Toref.

I wanted to bulk him up as he was behind from being ill, but he seems well caught up.

He’s a real gem. Handsome and gentle and a great eater.

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Some breeders feed every other week from a young age.

I will see what carpet keepers here say, but I think he’s ready for every two weeks. Plus, everyone in that stack of tanks eats every two weeks now anyway. Feliz, Figment, and Yafe are in that stack along with Toref.

I wanted to bulk him up as he was behind from being ill, but he seems well caught up.

He’s a real gem. Handsome and gentle and a great eater.

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I started feeding my BredlI every two weeks. He turned a year old at the end of July.




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Yafe is looking great Dave. I love his backstory too. He's really starting to bulk up now. I feed my carpets every 7 days for the first year. Every 10-14 days the 2nd year, and every 2-4 weeks as adults. They eat even less frequently (every 4-6 weeks) during the winter.

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I started feeding my BredlI every two weeks. He turned a year old at the end of July.




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Yafe is looking great Dave. I love his backstory too. He's really starting to bulk up now. I feed my carpets every 7 days for the first year. Every 10-14 days the 2nd year, and every 2-4 weeks as adults. They eat even less frequently (every 4-6 weeks) during the winter.

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Thank you both.

I'll start every other week with him now. When his growth slows, I'll probably move to every 3 weeks.

Thank you again!

Looking really great dave

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Yafe needed a cage cleaning and spent some time with Dad today. He's really doing wonderfully.

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Got some pictures of Yafe "hanging around." He's really looking good. The light in there is blueish and throws off his colors, but you can still see he looks solid.

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Looking great dave, them lights bring out his yellow markings against his white

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Yafe is well over 300G now. He weighed 335G today after leaving some urine, but will probably be a little less after another present soon. He's looking and acting great and is really calming down with handling. Not that he had far to go, but he seems much more comfortable and confident when out. His movements are calmer and if he gets spooked (sometimes just bumping into me), it's a quick spook and then back to being inquisitive and calm.

Here's a video of him hanging on me and a few pictures.

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Yafe had a great shed and is looking dapper. It's so great to see him thriving with everything he's been through.

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I was able to get a dry weight on Yafe yesterday. He's 365G. He's really doing great! I couldn't be happier.

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I was able to get a dry weight on Yafe yesterday. He's 365G. He's really doing great! I couldn't be happier.

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He's looking great dave

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Yafe, you've come a long ways, baby! :D

Yafe "hanging around." He continues to thrive. I talked with Don Soderberg from South Mountain Reptiles, who bred Solana, and he loves Yafe's success story. He calls him something different every time I talk with him. Last time, he was "Ghost Snake." This time, he said he had a "soft spot for the resurrected python."

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Yafe continues to thrive.

This cannot be comfortable?!?!

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​Yafe with his proud Papa!

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Snakes make up their own minds about "comfort", lol... that's better than the ones I've seen curled upside down under their substrate. :D
Snakes are just like kids...there's only so much you can teach 'em...the rest they just make up on their own to drive us crazy! :rolleyes:

Had Yafe out tonight and decided to try out my new iPhone's camera. He's looking good and the camera seems pretty darn good for a phone.

He left some urine and urate and weighed in at 385G, but he's due to drop something more substantial soon. So I'll get a better weight then. In the meantime, he's definitely thickening up.

His yellows are whites are getting super intense as he grows and as the whites and yellows get more clearly defined. He's still maintaining that awesome orange/pinkish color on his head and on his neck. Look very handsome Yafe!



Hello! Have you seen my heat pits lately?

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Soooo I know nothing about Carpet Pythons but I may have the chance to get s hatchling Albino one ...

In an nutshell what’s the experience like ?

I’ve had Burms , Retics , Kings , Garters , Corns , Royals , Pine snakes and Rat snakes ..,

Are Carpets like any of the above !

Max size ?

Temperament ?


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Soooo I know nothing about Carpet Pythons but I may have the chance to get s hatchling Albino one ...

In an nutshell what’s the experience like ?

I’ve had Burms , Retics , Kings , Garters , Corns , Royals , Pine snakes and Rat snakes ..,

Are Carpets like any of the above !

Max size ?

Temperament ?


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They can be pretty nippy as babies and juveniles, but usually outgrow that. Yafe has been pretty docile since day 1, but will hiss at me from time to time when I go to pick him up. He's never struck and is pretty cool once picked up. I have him hook trained.

He's my first and only carpet, so I can only comment on him. However, he is a little shy and can spook himself bumping into things when handled, similar to my BP, but he is more curious and active. In terms of activeness being handled he's somewhere between a boa and a corn snake. Curious and active, but not squirmy.

Size depends on the locale and species. He is an Irian Jaya (IJ) and Darwin hybrid. Both are the smallest species of carpet. Expect 5-6 feet max and you can see the build. Sturdy, but not hefty like a boa or Burmese python.

He's a great eater and only refuses in shed (I wouldn't normally offer in shed, but sometimes it's difficult to tell with him).

A few basics for Carpet Pythons.

1. You should provide height and floor space as well as a perch or perches. Yafe will probably be 5-6FT and he has a 4X2X1.5' (122cm long X 61cm deep X 46cm high) with two perches at different heights front and back. He can also utilize his hides and does. I was told, given that he spends most of his time on his perches, a 3X2X1.5' would have been okay, but I have already had a 4X2' tower going up.

2. They are great display snakes, especially in the evenings, sometimes during the day as well. He's often out on his perches, but he does utilize his hides often and especially during the day.

3. Get them on rats young. I've heard they can be difficult to switch from mice to rats. It was not an issue with Yafe, but I think it's worse the older they get.

4. Temp and humidity are really important as they are more prone to RI's than other pythons. Yafe got one when his shipment was delayed by 14 hours. Took 2 months and a lot of money and work to cure him. I've heard similar things from other people who have acquired Carpets. Even if conditions are good, stress can cause them if conditions aren't perfect.

Depends on species, but I keep Yafe's hot spot on his perch around 91-92F and the floor below about 90-91F (adult carpets can handle 92-93F pretty easily). His tank goes from that range on the hot side down to 79-80F on the cool side. He uses all of that space deepening on digestion and thermoregulation.

Humidity is always over 50-55%. I keep it about 60-65% most of the time, but in the winter, it can drop a little. I raise it in shed and if he show any signs of breathing issues, I up temps a degree and raise humidity into the 65-70% range. Since he beat the RI, that's only happened once, and he was in shed, so probably an overreaction. I am not trying to scare you about RI's, but since he's had one already, he's probably more susceptible.



Since we cured his RI, he's really been a dream. He's beautiful, he eats like clockwork, and is very docile. He is out and about more than my other snakes and I don't have to cover his acrylic doors like the boas to avoid food strikes at them :).

I enjoy handling him and he will be a very manageable size. That's a win win. If he had the active nature he does and was going to be much bigger, that would be a lot of work.

I don't shy away from larger snakes, but my boas are so chill, it almost doesn't matter. With him, although I've never had one, I imagine he's more like a retic.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

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Soooo I know nothing about Carpet Pythons but I may have the chance to get s hatchling Albino one ...

In an nutshell what’s the experience like ?

I’ve had Burms , Retics , Kings , Garters , Corns , Royals , Pine snakes and Rat snakes ..,

Are Carpets like any of the above !

Max size ?

Temperament ?


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Carpets are the best! They're my favorite snake species. I think every keeper needs at least one carpet in their collection. Temperament is an individual thing but all of mine are really chill. I do hook train them because they're pretty food driven but none of mine are defensive or bitey. They're active and inquisitive during handling, but not flighty, which is fun to me. They're beautiful and they make really good display snakes. They're also pretty hardy and easy to care for imo. I keep mine with a hot spot of 86-90 and don't worry about ambient temps or humidity. My ambient temps in summer are usually around 80. My winter time ambient temps have dropped into the upper 60s at night and they'll still be off their hot spots. They're usually great eaters but I have a couple that will go off food during winter or breeding season. Most are gonna max out between 5-7 ft which makes them a very manageable medium sized snake. You can't go wrong with a carpet.

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Carpets are the best! They're my favorite snake species. I think every keeper needs at least one carpet in their collection. Temperament is an individual thing but all of mine are really chill. I do hook train them because they're pretty food driven but none of mine are defensive or bitey. They're active and inquisitive during handling, but not flighty, which is fun to me. They're beautiful and they make really good display snakes. They're also pretty hardy and easy to care for imo. I keep mine with a hot spot of 86-90 and don't worry about ambient temps or humidity. My ambient temps in summer are usually around 80. My winter time ambient temps have dropped into the upper 60s at night and they'll still be off their hot spots. They're usually great eaters but I have a couple that will go off food during winter or breeding season. Most are gonna max out between 5-7 ft which makes them a very manageable medium sized snake. You can't go wrong with a carpet.

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Thanks EL-Ziggy.

EL-Ziggy has seniority here when it comes to Carpets.

I know what keeps Yafe happy and healthy, but I am also gun shy because he literally showed up with an RI. He was also 105G and a year old or so and probably more vulnerable than an older Carpet. I am also probably more careful with his setup than any of my other snakes now.

After my Boas, he is my favorite to handle and as he grows he continues to chill more and more.

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Thanks EL-Ziggy.

EL-Ziggy has seniority here when it comes to Carpets.

I know what keeps Yafe happy and healthy, but I am also gun shy because he literally showed up with an RI. He was also 105G and a year old or so and probably more vulnerable than an older Carpet. I am also probably more careful with his setup than any of my other snakes now.

After my Boas, he is my favorite to handle and as he grows he continues to chill more and more.

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Thanks Dave. I'm definitely no expert. We keep our carpets very similarly. I might let mine get a little cooler. Yafe, and all your critters, have a pretty sweet setup over there. They're relaxing at their reptile resort 😀. My crew has to tough it out. It's boot camp time!! I'm dropping their temps and cutting back on their food for the next few months.
I also have to agree with you about boas. They're my favorite snakes to handle too. I still consider myself a carpet guy but them boas are really special too. Super chill but eat like zombies. If I had gotten into them sooner I'd definitely have more of them.

Growing and Growing. He's over 380G after one meal and two waste dumps in the past 2 weeks. Really getting bright and handsome as well as thicker and sturdier.

Here's Yafe with his Grandma, my mother. He moves a little quick for her, but has been chilling out more and more. She's a big fan of the boas, and that's hard to argue as they are super chill. However, she's warming up to Yafe.

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Growing and Growing. He's over 380G after one meal and two waste dumps in the past 2 weeks. Really getting bright and handsome as well as thicker and sturdier.

Here's Yafe with his Grandma, my mother. He moves a little quick for her, but has been chilling out more and more. She's a big fan of the boas, and that's hard to argue as they are super chill. However, she's warming up to Yafe.

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He's a great colour, and looking great dave
that's the good thing about the boas, they generally chill and are a liitle more calm and collected when moving about

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Yafe is doing incredibly well. He's thickening up and getting strong. He's also calming down a ton as I handle him more. He's quite calm and doesn't hiss most of the time I go to pick him up now, but I don't sweat it if/when he does.

I am so happy with his progress and his health. He eats like a pig, hasn't made a bad breathing sound in a while, and keeps putting on solid weight and growing. His also active, but docile. I think I've said it before, but somewhere between a Boa and a Corn Snake. He really likes to hold on though, much more like a boa.

Here's a video of me holding him today.

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He's a very pretty fellow, but you deserve SO much credit for getting him healthy after he arrived so ill. :gj:

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He's a very pretty fellow, but you deserve SO much credit for getting him healthy after he arrived so ill. :gj:

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Thanks Bogertophis! That means so much to both me, and to Katie. We are so happy he's doing great! Almost 400G now! That versus a sickly 110G when we got him.

Had him out today and got a few pictures. He pounded a weaned rat this past Sunday. He was a little hiss machine when I went to take him out, which is unusual of late, but not out of the realm of possibility either :). He never strikes, and was fine once picked up. I probably woke him up or something. Either way, good to know he calms down quickly and becomes really chill once picked up. I am pleased with his progress.

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Yafe chilling and checking me out as I put his fresh water back.

The LED light in his tank makes him look bright and blueish, but it's still cool to see him peeking.

Considering he is an aggressive feeder, he's chill about having his water bowl moved in and out while he's perched and is too happy to bother me. I won't do that with the boas :).

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He's looking really good!

Yafe was 385G dry yesterday and gobbled down a weaned rat last night. I know CP's can handle big meals, but I am not rushing him. 40G or so weaned are allowing for a little slower growth right now, but that's fine. Better that then rush him.

He still hisses sometimes when I got o pick him up, and rub him with the hook, but is getting really good about being handled. He's really calming down in that way.

Yafe was in rare form today. A few hisses, then darting all around, and just seemed high strung. Between the hook calming him down and using the handle and my hand to gently get him out, it was an ordeal. Normally, I would have let him be, but he had made a mess and the tank needed attention.

I also need to work with him more. End of year is a busy time for me work wise, family wise, etc. and I've probably only been taking him out 1-2 times a week. I really aim for 3 with my BI's and Yafe. 1-2 for my BP and corns.

Anyway, once out and about, he calmed down quickly.

I was wondering if something in the weather is changing. Solana (corn) really didn't want to come out tonight either (and her tank had to be cleaned as well) and that's super unusual for her. She is usually easy.

In any event, Yafe is looking good and about 395G. He's really getting some girth and he's such a handsome fellow.

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It's rough when our snakes act up all at once, lol. Yafe is getting a more "mature" look to him...next thing you know, he'll be asking for the car keys. ;)

He's looking fantastic dave, love how coils on his pole like a gtp

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Yafe is doing great and over 400G now. I took Behira to the vet the other day and the vet was pleased to see how much growth Yafe put on and how well he is doing (I didn't bring him, but explained and showed pictures).

He's a hisser when coming out, but a sweetie once out and has never struck, even in cage, hissing and all. He's getting big.

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He's looking fantastic, but don't tell him, he'll get all conceited. ;)

He's looking great and growing well Dave. You're right about CPs being able to take down larger meals but I appreciate your slightly slower, yet steady, feeding and growth method. I've learned that a lot of their food intake for the first 2 years go towards growth, so I tend to feed pretty liberally those first 2 years, but after that I dial them back quite a bit.

I was pretty sure Yafe was going to shed, but it's hard to tell 100% with him because of his colors and eye color. Either way, he had been hissy and I heard a few puffs when I took him out the other day. I was hoping it was shed related and/or he was just unhappy about being handled when about to shed.

I upped humidity for the past 5 days, and sure enough, perfect shed last night. He's looking great and more importantly, sounds perfect again. He was a joy when I handled him today and even let me take some pictures :). He is a little more high strung than most of my other snakes, and I guess I have to get used to that. He will definitely act out more (active and jumpy) when in shed or not wanting to be handled.

He's definitely growing, but I didn't get a weight in as he only left me some urine and urate.

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Keep up the good work with that one.

Beautiful colors and pattern!

Yafe is due to eat tonight, as he skipped last week while in shed. He's eating a weaned rat every 2 weeks currently. I think pretty soon I will up him to small rats, not yet.

I weighed him totally dry today he's 405G! He looks great and is back to his calm(ish) self after having been grumpy while in shed. Not aggressive or anything, just grumpy.

I remember tiny, 105G Yafe, who arrived sick with a brutal RI after fed ex lost him, and now look at vibrant and getting hefty Yafe at a healthy and happy, almost 4X that weight! He's also at least 4FT long now.

Katie and I couldn't be happier with how well he is doing!

Here are a few pics of me and Yafe. Don't mind my wet shirt, I had just cleaned everyones water bowls!

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You guys look great together!

Good pictures, thanks for posting.

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You guys look great together!

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Thank you Gio!

It's wonderful to see how well he is doing now. He's really thriving. That versus when we got him and didn't even know if he'd make it. WOW. So gratifying.

He's got you to thank, I know that for sure. :gj:

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He's got you to thank, I know that for sure. :gj:

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I appreciate that. I was determined and dedicated. However, two good vets, Katie who gave injections, and a willing participant (Yafe) who put up with injections and nebulizers, etc. all helped.

It also helped that I had a spare couple grand! Sick animals get expensive in a hurry. I do not want to go down that road again, although we will see RE Behira. I barely knew Yafe and did everything I could for him. I adore Behira and that's making this even more difficult. However, I am not sure her condition is as dire.

I say the above, RE the money, not to brag or anything, believe me, I would have rather spent the money elsewhere, but it's important, IMO, especially when you have a collection, to stay on top of care and deal with animals that do become sick quickly and efficiently.

Yes, Yafe was quarantined, and no one else was at risk. However, these are all living creatures and taking them on means doing whatever we can (within reason) for them.

I am not telling anyone what to do, and it's a balance. Who expects to spend $2K on a new $2k snake?!?! Who has that kind of money put aside? My point is that I was lucky I was able to do that, but everyone should consider that, and do their best to care for their animals. No judgement.

I've been a silent lurker of your thread(s) tbh. Been reading and lurking and learning more about how to care and handle Mosaic, I especially work with her on hook training based off the things I've read by you. She's a little feisty so I have had to use my hook to make sure I don't get tagged when I gotta get in the cage. She seems to be in food mode 50% of the time.

Your Yafe is about the same age as my Mosaic, a striped Coastal, who I bought as baby in the summer of 2018(wow, its been almost two years already), its interesting to see the similarities in size and growth rate at this time. She's roughly the same weight and length as your Yafe.

He's a beautiful boy, and I can definitely see him putting on that girth and length and I'm glad you have such a calm boy and glad he is doing so well after all the ordeals you had to go through.
You too also inspired me on Boas with your thread on Behira.

Just felt like leaving a word today. Back to lurking. :P

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I've been a silent lurker of your thread(s) tbh. Been reading and lurking and learning more about how to care and handle Mosaic, I especially work with her on hook training based off the things I've read by you. She's a little feisty so I have had to use my hook to make sure I don't get tagged when I gotta get in the cage. She seems to be in food mode 50% of the time.

Your Yafe is about the same age as my Mosaic, a striped Coastal, who I bought as baby in the summer of 2018(wow, its been almost two years already), its interesting to see the similarities in size and growth rate at this time. She's roughly the same weight and length as your Yafe.

He's a beautiful boy, and I can definitely see him putting on that girth and length and I'm glad you have such a calm boy and glad he is doing so well after all the ordeals you had to go through.
You too also inspired me on Boas with your thread on Behira.

Just felt like leaving a word today. Back to lurking. :P

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Awwwww. Thank you so much.

Mosaic is a beauty and I am so glad you got into Boas. Rowan is a looker too!

I think Mosaic will get quite a bit bigger than Yafe will, but it's cool they are on similar growth trajectories.

The hook works great once they get accustomed to it and know what it means - NO FOOD! Having said that, I remove all my bigger snakes and food oriented snakes when I do maintenance in tank. I find that reduces the risk of a bite. Mosaic seems calmer once out, is that correct?

It was a roller coaster ride with Yafe in the beginning, but it's paid off. He's really is an awesome snake and not only is he pretty calm, but he's my only real display snake. He loves being on his perches and checking out what's going on around him.

Let's keep our fingers crossed on Behira, but I am (cautiously) optimistic. I love that she helped inspire you to get a Boa. That's awesome.

Thank you again and I'll continue to keep everyone in the loop. You do the same with your crew!

Perhaps Behira needs a pep talk from Yafe? I mean, it's only fair to warn her that you'll stop at nothing to make her healthy. ;)

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Perhaps Behira needs a pep talk from Yafe? I mean, it's only fair to warn her that you'll stop at nothing to make her healthy. ;)

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Thank you. You are 100% correct! I can be very determined when I got my mind set on something.

Well, we're ALL pulling for you & Behira too...not to mention that as a "community" we'd love to better understand this phenomenon, though there could easily be
more than one cause.