Who owns guns and you carry?

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Originally Posted by sho220

The VAST MAJORITY of cops are good, honest, hard working folks who do the job because they truly want to help people. Despite what the mainstream media want us to believe, they are not all out there looking for innocent people to give the beat down to...

I'm not picking on you, just piggy backing off your comment. :) It just pisses me off to no end that they are constantly being bashed for everything they do. They can't even make a legit arrest of a dangerous criminal without getting a ration of s......it's like we live in Bizzarro world or something...
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I've only met awesome cops and I'm sure most are great :) my friends on the other hand had terrible experiences. Yeah it's weird when people say stupid things like to the police. Makes me quite upset! Bad cops are definitely a minority

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Originally Posted by youbeyouibei

One of the armorer re-certs I went to the instructor had a Glock from NOPD that had been in an armory when the storm surge hit. I forget how long he said it had been immersed in saltwater but other than being a little dirty it looked brand new. Not a speck of rust or anything else on it and he said it they'd put a 1,000 rounds or so through it after they recovered it without a misfire or failure to feed/eject, nothing. They're phenomenal guns, far as I'm concerned.

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Exactly.
I've been known to put bring hell to whatever I own, whether it be my Glock or my jeep. Lol my Glock is one loyal piece of machinery. I carry it wherever I can and I never even have the thought cross my mind that it might jam on me. It's definitely the most reliable gun that I own.

Jeep FTW!!!

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Originally Posted by OsirisRa32

Jeep FTW!!!

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Jeep wave

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Originally Posted by Trackstrong83

I have a Glock 19 9mm that has been through hell and back. Dropped in mud, sand, lakes, left outside in the rain, anything you can imagine and it still works like a champ.

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Left in the rain? Doesn't sound safe.

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Originally Posted by KMG

Left in the rain? Doesn't sound safe.

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Agreed. Obviously we don't have the whole story, but that sounds a lot like leaving a gun unsupervised where someone who shouldn't have access to it might find it. Committing irresponsible (and possibly illegal, depending on your local laws) acts only serves to make all gun owners look bad.

Responding to the original intent of the thread...

Springfield M-1A
Springfield XDS .45
Springfiled 1911 .45
S&W AR-15 .308
HK USP compact 9mm
Walther P99 .40
Walther PPK .380
Walther PP .32
Ruger Super Redhawk .44 mag (yes the 9.5 inch barrel one)
Benelli M-2 semi-auto
Benelli R-1 .270 WSM (getting rid of this, it hurts me)
Mossberg 12ga
Generic .22LR (with a Leupold scope, :confusd:)
1917 Enfield MkIII .303 British

The Benelli's and the Ruger are mine, the rest are the hubby's (although I've pretty much commandeered the little Walther PP). He CC's most of the smaller handguns, but usually the PPK or the XDS, I do not usually carry (although in AZ pretty much everyone does, since we don't even have to do CCW here). However I open carry sometimes when out hiking, especially in remote areas. We have a serious problem drug traffickers here in the desert, they're typically not friendly people.

The M-1A, the AR, the XDs, and the Enfield were all things I got him for various birthdays and christmases, he's easy to shop for.

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Originally Posted by Badgemash

Responding to the original intent of the thread...

Springfield M-1A
Springfield XDS .45
Springfiled 1911 .45
S&W AR-15 .308
HK USP compact 9mm
Walther P99 .40
Walther PPK .380
Walther PP .32
Ruger Super Redhawk .44 mag (yes the 9.5 inch barrel one)
Benelli M-2 semi-auto
Benelli R-1 .270 WSM (getting rid of this, it hurts me)
Mossberg 12ga
Generic .22LR (with a Leupold scope, :confusd:)
1917 Enfield MkIII .303 British

The Benelli's and the Ruger are mine, the rest are the hubby's (although I've pretty much commandeered the little Walther PP). He CC's most of the smaller handguns, but usually the PPK or the XDS, I do not usually carry (although in AZ pretty much everyone does, since we don't even have to do CCW here). However I open carry sometimes when out hiking, especially in remote areas. We have a serious problem drug traffickers here in the desert, they're typically not friendly people.

The M-1A, the AR, the XDs, and the Enfield were all things I got him for various birthdays and christmases, he's easy to shop for.

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Can you call my wife please and share your gift giving tips!

One thing to keep in mind for glock users/fans/owners; Most police personnel are switching over to the M92SF or variations of it due to the glock having to many misfires and friendly fires. Compact, reliable but also trigger happy it seems from the numbers.

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Originally Posted by Ryan Chin

One thing to keep in mind for glock users/fans/owners; Most police personnel are switching over to the M92SF or variations of it due to the glock having to many misfires and friendly fires. Compact, reliable but also trigger happy it seems from the numbers.

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I would imagine that the VAST majority of negligent discharges with Glocks are due to fingers on triggers when they shouldn't be. That and the whole "don't point it at anything you're not willing to destroy" bit. Bad gunhandling and/or ignoring safety rules leads to unintended loud noises, and those come with consequences. This is not specific to Glocks; they just happen to have a smaller margin for error than a DA/SA gun like the Beretta you mention. S&W M&P pistols have the exact same shortcoming, as do the Walther PPQ, the Caracal, and many, many others.

Switching away from Glocks in order to "fix" this problem is really just a band-aid for a bad training culture within an organization. People should be training to handle their gun correctly, be it a Glock or anything else, and that means finger off the trigger until you intend to shoot, regardless of whether it's striker fired like a Glock or M&P, DA/SA like the Beretta, manual safety like a 1911, or something funky like an HK P7 (technically striker fired, but the safety system is a very novel design).

All of the above should be read with the understanding that I have no horse in the race - I don't own a Glock and am not a fanboy, but that doesn't mean I don't respect them for what they are.

On a separate note, "misfire" is a general term used to categorize many types of ammunition failure (failure to fire, squib, hangfire, etc), and has nothing to do with accidental or negligent discharge, which is what you seem to be using it for.

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Originally Posted by olstyn

I would imagine that the VAST majority of negligent discharges with Glocks are due to fingers on triggers when they shouldn't be. That and the whole "don't point it at anything you're not willing to destroy" bit. Bad gunhandling and/or ignoring safety rules leads to unintended loud noises, and those come with consequences. This is not specific to Glocks; they just happen to have a smaller margin for error than a DA/SA gun like the Beretta you mention. S&W M&P pistols have the exact same shortcoming, as do the Walther PPQ, the Caracal, and many, many others.

Switching away from Glocks in order to "fix" this problem is really just a band-aid for a bad training culture within an organization. People should be training to handle their gun correctly, be it a Glock or anything else, and that means finger off the trigger until you intend to shoot, regardless of whether it's striker fired like a Glock or M&P, DA/SA like the Beretta, manual safety like a 1911, or something funky like an HK P7 (technically striker fired, but the safety system is a very novel design).

All of the above should be read with the understanding that I have no horse in the race - I don't own a Glock and am not a fanboy, but that doesn't mean I don't respect them for what they are.

On a separate note, "misfire" is a general term used to categorize many types of ammunition failure (failure to fire, squib, hangfire, etc), and has nothing to do with accidental or negligent discharge, which is what you seem to be using it for.

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Well said, ever see the video of a Glock dropped out of a helicopter with one in the chamber. Didn't fire. Now there is no such thing as 100% imo when it comes to anything mechanical, but glocks do not just go off unless the trigger is pulled. And if having a external safety on your firearm makes you feel it's safe, then you have no business owning a gun, imo. Gun safety is 100% the responsibility of the one who owns the gun end of story, all guns are dangerous. For what it's worth I own and shoot 2 Glocks a 22 and 27. 22 is a gen 4 and 27 gen 3. Never had a misfire, ftf, fte, stovepipe or anything but bang. IMO most "misfires" are a result of user error (limp wrist) or low quality ammunition. Going off unexpectedly is also user error. Finger on trigger while you draw, or reholstering or no holster at all. To be clear I'm not saying a Glock is the best gun out there, I think there are a bunch of great handguns being produced today. I will say for someone who is going to own one gun and doesn't want a revolver I do believe it is the best.
FWIW

I own a "few" firearms. I don't like listing the entire group because frankly I don't want people knowing what I have, but will say that my carry weapon of choice is the Beretta M9. I know it's not the best handgun out there, but I carried one as an MP and really am happy with it and its performance.

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Originally Posted by Seanjackmc

Can you call my wife please and share your gift giving tips!

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LOL, it's a double edged sword for him, yeah he gets something he likes, and in the case of the M-1A something he might not have bought himself, but it also means he can't complain when I bring home a new snake, rack, incubator... He's awful at gift shopping, so I buy stuff for myself and tell him it's what he got me.

Currently only own a Remington 870 Wingmaster 12 ga and as everyone has said, it's an exceptional weapon. Bought it used for under $250 and have absolutely no regrets. Once my tax return comes in, pretty sure I'll be getting the STI Spartan IV. Its a wicked 1911 chambered in 9mm. Don't plan on actually CC, but I do intend to take the course and get my CC. If I carry, I might just open carry if I decide its worth risking "public panic" or whatever the legal rules are in NC

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Originally Posted by Seanjackmc

To be clear I'm not saying a Glock is the best gun out there, I think there are a bunch of great handguns being produced today. I will say for someone who is going to own one gun and doesn't want a revolver I do believe it is the best.
FWIW

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30 years ago I would agree that a Glock would be hard to beat (when they weren't kb'ing), but I think the rest of the manufacturers have also figured out how to make a pretty good poly semi-auto. I personally don't see any edge to getting a Glock other than personal preference and price.