TOFFEE Ball PROVEN

im still not seeing a toffe, sorry but it almost looks like a lav

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Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS

im still not seeing a toffe, sorry but it almost looks like a lav

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Mario,
The Candy did the same thing it kept changing every shed, it will eventually look like a Toffee. Just takes time!

The Toffee Ball reminds me of the Blonde/Carmel Albino Reticulated Pythons. They start out looking like a normal white phase Albino with bright red eyes, and gradually change into their adult colors.

ChrisP

wowwwwie~!! :banana:

My 'normal' albinos off colour :P
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...8/DSC_0330.jpg
Paul

Wow those colors are unbelievable. Looks like they can glow in the dark! Can't wait to see these things as adults! I don't think anyone can argue about them not being toffees any more. Good luck with them!

Gorgeous! Thanks for the updated picture, Paul!

Beautiful animal Paul! Think these are compatible with lavender albino?

Reason I ask is that Grant Whitmer had a female lavender albino that resembled the toffee a bit.

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Originally Posted by Russ Lawson

Beautiful animal Paul! Think these are compatible with lavender albino?

Reason I ask is that Grant Whitmer had a female lavender albino that resembled the toffee a bit.

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I have a Lav and in the flesh they are a million miles apart and at very different stages.
Paul

I think the smug look on the snake`s face says it all... what a great looking shot and amazing animal. Congrats. :)

Bruce

Thanks for the new pic Paul.:gj: Looks amazing!! Man I can't wait to hatch out a few of those. :banana:

Smoking hot.

its got that banana color to it also..........very nice

heeeeeey i'm a pretty decent photographer! send those babies on over here and i'd be happy to snap some shots for ya! ;)

Sweet Glad to see that the colors do change.

Simply beautiful Paul, thanks for sharing! :)

Thanks for posting the updated picture Paul, I just love the ongoing color change on these guys, it's like getting several different snakes in one. Just beautiful

Thanks for all the kind words guys. There seems to be a few quiet forum experts now :P
Just proud to be a part of it all and get great pleasure in sharing them. I will either get to use my camera properly and get some more shots or get a mate to take them again.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Thanks for posting the updated picture Paul, I just love the ongoing color change on these guys, it's like getting several different snakes in one. Just beautiful

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Yeah, from an albino to lav, now towards a banana and a TOFFEE next. Can't get much better than rarer and more expensive each shed :)
Paul

Amazing color change! I've been thinking a few days ago about this and here it goes. Thanks for the update:gj:

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Smoking hot.

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"information value"...........0

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Originally Posted by paul.angelides

Thanks for all the kind words guys. There seems to be a few quiet forum experts now :P
Just proud to be a part of it all and get great pleasure in sharing them. I will either get to use my camera properly and get some more shots or get a mate to take them again.



Yeah, from an albino to lav, now towards a banana and a TOFFEE next. Can't get much better than rarer and more expensive each shed :)
Paul

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Go on give us a call Paul..do a discount for pizza and refreshments!!:banana:

What an amazing change! I'd hoped, but honestly didn't expect such a remarkable change. At the moment, I'm busy chowing down on my doubting words! :yes: :chew: :yes:

It must have been extremely frustrating to KNOW you had what you did, but to have so many doubters. Hopefully the feelings of vindication balance the scales of frustration! Please, please, please share more pictures with us as they grow!

Oh, and I agree with Bruce...that's one smug looking snake! :D

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Originally Posted by JLC

What an amazing change! I'd hoped, but honestly didn't expect such a remarkable change. At the moment, I'm busy chowing down on my doubting words! :yes: :chew: :yes:

It must have been extremely frustrating to KNOW you had what you did, but to have so many doubters. Hopefully the feelings of vindication balance the scales of frustration! Please, please, please share more pictures with us as they grow!

Oh, and I agree with Bruce...that's one smug looking snake! :D

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Judy, I hope your words taste as good as mine do! :P I knew I would be eating them as soon as I saw baby, yearling and adult Candy balls in person all at once.
Congrats on your Toffee!:bow:

Neat! :salute:

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Originally Posted by JLC

What an amazing change! I'd hoped, but honestly didn't expect such a remarkable change. At the moment, I'm busy chowing down on my doubting words! :yes: :chew: :yes:

It must have been extremely frustrating to KNOW you had what you did, but to have so many doubters. Hopefully the feelings of vindication balance the scales of frustration! Please, please, please share more pictures with us as they grow!

Oh, and I agree with Bruce...that's one smug looking snake! :D

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Originally Posted by waltah!

Judy, I hope your words taste as good as mine do! :P I knew I would be eating them as soon as I saw baby, yearling and adult Candy balls in person all at once.
Congrats on your Toffee!:bow:

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Big Gunns knew you guys would eat them, although being the selfish person everyone knows he is...he was hoping you didn't.:D:tears::tears::tears:

Thanks for all the kind words again folks, glad you like them.

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Originally Posted by StuartH

Go on give us a call Paul..do a discount for pizza and refreshments!!:banana:

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I'm busy saving my pennies and Hob nobs for your return mate. When I find someone decent to do my sight I will give you a shout mate.
Paul

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Originally Posted by paul.angelides

Thanks for all the kind words again folks, glad you like them.




I'm busy saving my pennies and Hob nobs for your return mate. When I find someone decent to do my sight I will give you a shout mate.
Paul

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;) No worries mate..certainly be good to catch up and have a natter.:gj:

Hey,

just found this "short" thread, was much to long to read every single word. but the colour change is really amazing!
since i saw the candy/toffee (i think that its the same) i knew: as soon as my finances allow and i find a way to get a pair of hets to europe i will have them here.
this is my favorite morph, from the first day i saw this, and i'm really glad that it seemd to be prooven right now.

Ok, I just really would like some updated pics of these guys! Anyone please feel free

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Originally Posted by Big Gunnsd

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Nobody finds this thread more amusing than Big Gunns. BG thought at least one of his fans would have let people know the one person that could put this thread to rest once and for all. That one person being The Man, The Myth, The Legend in his own mind himself. There is no bigger expert. (yeah...hard to believe huh):)

BG will say this. Congrats Paul. BG can't say he's even 1% happy for you, but congrats anyway. :)

To all the people that are completely lost by now....you'll just have to ask someone that's "in the know" wtf BG is talking about.:rofl: If you're smart and can read between the lines, you'll realize that Big Gunns has just settled this whole mess with this post.

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Originally Posted by Big Gunns

What's up skinny?









Well....like they say. You can lead a French Poodle to a bowl of rice crispies , but you can't make it eat them....even if you shove it's head in the bowl and show it how apparently.:rofl:



Oh how wrong you are my leeetle Minion.:P Big Gunns is definitely known for his "staying power"...you just have to talk to the right woman.;):D:D

In all honesty though. BG is banned from nowhere he decided to grace with his obvious great presence.:D Now he WAS from one place, but that was all by design. If you ask the right leeetle Minion....Big Gunns can prove it.:D

"Modesty" is for those that don't have the Ball Pythons to say what they really wanna say. Big Gunns is the greatest.:banana::banana:

ps. Don't worry peeps. Big Gunns has been on a "top secret" mission the last few months. He does not have the time to be the REAL BIG GUNNS anymore. That "top secret" mission will be revealed soon enough. Let's just say everyone will be seeing(yes....actually seeing) a lot more of Big Gunns. Wasn't it obvious from the first time you saw Big Gunns that he was obviously put here(on earth) for bigger and better things?:salute:

Big Gunns is out....back to your regularly scheduled forum.:salute:

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: There it is fans. The first post ever at BP.net as Big Gunns. BG did have a leeetle undercover name that the crack detective mods sniffed out for a while. That's the reason it says "Big Gunnsd".

As you can clearly see though. The second post that BG quoted speaks of a "top secret mission". A "top secret mission" that still to this day has not been revealed. BG just thought he might point that out.:P:D

Big Gunns really did enjoy going back and reading from page 16 on when he first made his appearance. Big Gunns misses those days.:rofl:

ps. Bad news fans. Another "top secret mission" is coming soon. BG just thought he would warn you to give you time to prepare. No worries though. Big Gunns always returns for his fans.:gj:

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I found this site where they certainly show what their Toffee looks like, but the bottom two images confuse me. I'm assuming they do darken up, but they do seem to have the red eyes as well, which makes me wonder how you'd know you hit on a Toffee and not just an albino. :confused:

http://www.theurbanpython.com/ball-pythons/toffee

Hi,

I'm fairly sure it was because he was breeding together hets produced by breeding that animal to a normal.

I could be wrong though.


dr del

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Originally Posted by xFenrir

I found this site where they certainly show what their Toffee looks like, but the bottom two images confuse me. I'm assuming they do darken up, but they do seem to have the red eyes as well, which makes me wonder how you'd know you hit on a Toffee and not just an albino. :confused:

http://www.theurbanpython.com/ball-pythons/toffee

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I'm pretty sure when u spend good money on het toffees(from a well know breeder) you have a good chance at hitting toffees. In conclusion that what ever pops out can't be normal or a normal whatever. From what I know they look like albinos but the pattern is very different, the eyes throw me off but the proof is there.

As babies they look to be albino's but as they get older and mature they evolve into the Toffee colors including the black eyes. You for sure would know by buying them from a reputable breeder and because of the money you would spend on the hets.
Also as a side note The Urban Python has the original Toffee.

I read the whole dang thing! Congrats on all the hard work:gj:

I just read it all, too! Whew. Congrats SO much, I rooted for ya while reading this. xD

Would love to seem some recent pix, though! Pretty please??

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Originally Posted by Anya

Would love to seem some recent pix, though! Pretty please??

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This thread just won't die :banana:
I posted a little while back. The female stopped feeding for a couple of months but off again now and in shed so I will take an undate in a couple of months but still changing :gj:

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ht=toffee+ball

Paul

that is not toffee...for sure:D

I was told they were the only bp to go through an eye color change is that true?

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Originally Posted by python_addict

I was told they were the only bp to go through an eye color change is that true?

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Not sure if the only one but take a look for yourself :taz:
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ht=toffee+ball

Paul

Paul, they are incredible!!