Here you are...

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Originally Posted by wilomn

I know what I'm talking about when I say these mods do a damn fine job at a difficult task.

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I completely agree. Please don't think for one second that I don't. I was just trying to turn the conversation into a positive curve. Ya know, sugar coating and all. lol.

I was just wondering if it is so easy to write a TOS to keep everyone happy, let's hear how it should be written. It was not an attack on the current TOS. :D

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Originally Posted by stratus_020202

I completely agree. Please don't think for one second that I don't. I was just trying to turn the conversation into a positive curve. Ya know, sugar coating and all. lol.

I was just wondering if it is so easy to write a TOS to keep everyone happy, let's hear how it should be written. It was not an attack on the current TOS. :D

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Ahhhh, sounded like you wanted to have the TOS rewritten.

The problem with asking for this stuff is some folks will take it seriously and most will not understand that this is not the first time staff has considered all the things that came up here, some with the very same people, and so get all butthurt when their brilliant ideas are not utilized.

The thing is, none of this is new, it's just new to you.

While ideas are grand, new ideas are few and far between.

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Originally Posted by Ben Biscy

I'm going to say this from the neutral zone. There are two sides or more in just about everything. Same here on this site. You have the "stuck up" side and the "ghetto" side. I realize both of these are negative terms, but are the views of the "other" side, if you will. "edit" I'm not trying to start anything here, just showing that a general negative attitude is displayed from both angles. "/edit"

Opinions are opinions, but favoritism just isn't right. If you're going to enforce these rules for "one side", you should do so for the "other side" as well. It is not fair to any members to have to worry about which group they choose to associate with, or how they have to mold their posts as not to anger a group into harassment.

Every one has the right to be treated equally.

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Again..it is straight forward. Give your two cents and move on.

If you don't like how this site is ran....leave.

A 30 page opinion is a bit ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by wilomn

The thing is, none of this is new, it's just new to you.

While ideas are grand, new ideas are few and far between.

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Oh. The funny thing is I'll probably be saying the same thing to another newbie in three years. :) And I'll be able to look back and laugh.

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Originally Posted by stratus_020202

Ok. Then. How would you put the TOS? Let's get some suggestions. I'm sure the Admins wouldn't mind.

How would you state the rules to keep the site kid friendly, and make everyone feel welcom. It can't be that you can say anything. Maybe we could put up a poll on different rules, and members can vote on them?

We should be able to come to a happy medium. Right?

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I don't know if you were talking to me or not, but I am quite fond of the TOS on this website. I've seen some pretty nasty Rule sets in my day as well..

Wes, I must say, you really do have a lot of my respect.

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Originally Posted by blackcrystal22

I don't know if you were talking to me or not, but I am quite fond of the TOS on this website. I've seen some pretty nasty Rule sets in my day as well..

Wes, I must say, you really do have a lot of my respect.

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Careful, whatever group I belong to must be a minority and therefore we must be persecuted, and openly respecting me could lead those of dubious intelligence to think you were just like me and, well, that's an interesting twist on the road, isn't it?

No wonder I have such issues, I'm persecuted and didn't even know it.

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Originally Posted by blackcrystal22

I don't know if you were talking to me or not, but I am quite fond of the TOS on this website. I've seen some pretty nasty Rule sets in my day as well..

Wes, I must say, you really do have a lot of my respect.

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No no no. lol. I was being sarcastic to the ones who think it's easy to write a TOS. :oops: I'm not as good at it as Wes. lol.

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

I read the whole thing... even his sig was his opinion, but oh no, opinions matter (for the select few).

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Yes Matt - opinions are allowed to be expressed, as much as you want. The FACT is, you can only express your opinion to a certain extent until it starts getting disrespectful, rude, and out of line. There are no secrets. The sig that was displayed was an opinion, but a disrespectful opinion and an uncalled for jab at the way we do things here.

Judy politely PM'd him asking him to remove the signature, because it was disrespectful. He was given an opportunity to do things right, and we gave him the time and the courtesy of a choice instead of out right infracting him. He refused, and was given the consequences he was told he would get. He was disrespectful and THAT is not acceptable here.

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Originally Posted by DutchHerp

I did.

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And she is responded to you, yes?

8:38 -- You PM'd Judy

9:05 -- You posted an unfounded and complete bogus accusation WITHOUT hearing the truth (actually, Judy already posted the facts HERE. but you apparently missed that part, and up above I've simply echo'd her previous post )

9:12 -- Judy responded to you and answered your questions, and many other questions beyond that.

Just setting the record straight.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Careful, whatever group I belong to must be a minority and therefore we must be persecuted, and openly respecting me could lead those of dubious intelligence to think you were just like me and, well, that's an interesting twist on the road, isn't it?

No wonder I have such issues, I'm persecuted and didn't even know it.

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This is here is golden. ha. :)




...wait....but let's keep this straight...I don't roll with your 'kind'...don't wanna get caught up in any nonsense...

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Again..it is straight forward. Give your two cents and move on.

If you don't like how this site is ran....leave.

A 30 page opinion is a bit ridiculous.

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I believe I did just state my opinion. It is ironic, however, that I accidentally hit refresh instead of home, though, and then moved on to read this post.

Stop instigating bs and pretending you are better than anyone else. You aren't.