Sea Kittens... and PETA

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it's high time that the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) stop allowing our little sea kitten friends to be tortured and killed.

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What I want to know is how do you torture sea kittens? Water boarding?

It's kinda funny... most of the fish we eat (IMO) are ugly! Who keeps tuna or cod or salmon in their display aquarium at home? They're not cute little sea kittens. The cute little sea kittens don't have enough meat on em to eat!


PS- We have a Fuzzy Dwarf Lionfish... that's almost a sea kitten right??


PSS- Do they really think people buy that crap? People are going to change their lifestyle because PETA likened fish to kittens? Come on!

I really don't think it'll change perceptions except amongst the gullible.

Down south they've been eating catfish with their Hushpuppies for years.

PETA is a joke. A cruel joke played by nasty mean little children.

Eating animals is an ethically complex idea to think about. If murder is wrong, and animals should have rights, and they almost always feel pain when they are killed, and you love your own pets... but humans have been eating meat for millions of years... then where does one draw the line?

I admire people who hunt and then prepare and eat the animal afterwards, because they actually have the courage to look the animal's death in the face and understand that they will eat the meat that comes from it. I have heard some people who hunt have a deep appreciation for the animals that they are killing. I think the reason for all the vegetarianism and veganism nowadays is that most animal products don't look like the animal they came from, and that there is a huge disconnect from the food and the creature. Because of this, some people probably do not know how to react to the fact that "a cow was killed for my hamburger".

Not saying vegetarianism/veganism is wrong... just that there's other ways to think about human meat consumption.

edit: wow did not realize how off topic I got... Sorry not trying to hijack this thread!

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Originally Posted by JamieC

http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/arti...0852005061.txt

If they say we can not have animals, maby we should eat them, save us the trouble of dealing with nuts.:P
now People killed off most of the natural preditors around, think of all the sickness in the animals, when they overpopulate, and run out of food.

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As you cook them you should say, "God made me a cannibal to fix problems like you."
Hmm, the possibilities.
I only encountered PETA once. I was at a GWAR and Mindless Self Indulgence concert on the Jersey Shore and PETA was petitioning on the other side of the pier saying, "Save the fish, even the finned ones!" I laughed and bought a cheeseburger from the stand that was next to theirs. As the day went on more and more hot dog and burger stands popped up next to the PETA stand. Ironic PETA draws the meat eaters. Then as i'm standing there one girl yelled from the PETA stand, "Ahhh, a cockroach!" and stepped on it. She continued, "It's because of you dirty vendors that these things exist here!"
I stood there, my food dropped out of my gapping mount and a smile came over my face. She was freaking ou and screaming at these guys about how horrible they are for killing and feeding these animals to humans and that she was a vegan (very pale and lethargic one until she saw the roach) and would never hurt a living organism.
Oh god, i think she was blond too.

I am not so fond of cats.... Kittens are cute yes but they become cats.
and fish are tasty....


MMMMMMMM sea kitty sticks!!!!

:weirdface Sea kittens...K.

Did anyone catch that Pamela Anderson show? She paraded around in a little white PETA shirt having a garage sell so she could donate all the money to PETA... at one point on the show the PETA president said something about her being one of their best supporters, and THEN! In the SAME episode... she's walking around the Playboy Mansion w/ H. Hefner and at the end of their stroll, he says something to the effect of, "Hey, would you like to go look at the monkeys?" and she replies something along the lines of, *Bounce-Bounce* "Awwwwww.... Yea! I LOVE Monkeys!!!" *Bounce-giggle-Bounce*

The monkeys are on display... as in they are in cages... as in their best supporter person is an idiot.

Let me dust off my podium for a bit... mic-test, mic-test... ready.

The problem here is the use of the word ETHICS. My friends, the ego of humans sometimes get the best of them and twist words like ETHICAL to make it seem like they are the end-all, be-all of human standards. Who is to say what is ethical and what is not?

Humans are the only living thing in this planet granted the gift of reason. As such, they have the mantle of responsibility hoisted upon their shoulders to protect the planet and maintain balance. Everything else follows the grand design of nature to maintain balance.

I can understand a group of people taking on that responsibility to protect life. What I can't understand is how they define what is ethical. Let's fall back for a moment and take a knife as an example. A knife in itself has no morals. The use of that knife would make it either ethical or not. A doctor using a knife to surgically remove an inflamed appendix is ethical. A mobster using a knife to slash somebody's throat wouldn't be. Now, who decided that? Man in his infinite wisdom made the decision that saving a man's life is ethical while taking it away is not. That's fairly easy to comprehend because most people share the same view.

But, let's take that one step further and say the knife was used to kill a deer. Now, is that ethical or not? That's where the argument lies. Because some people think that killing a deer for food is ethical while others think killing a deer is the same exact thing as a mobster slashing somebody's throat.

When there is dissent, who decides what is ethical?

I tend to go with what mother nature designed. Nature cannot be unethical. It does not have the gift of reason. Therefore, a shark eating a seal is not unethical. A burmese python eating a dog is not unethical. A falcon eating a python is not unethical. A frog eating a fly is not unethical... and so on. Everything has their purpose and nature designed everything to maintain balance. A ball python eats rodents. So it is designed that ball pythons only reproduce 4-8 eggs once a year while rodents can have 20 babies every month. A ball python lives to be 20, a rodent only 2. They all fall into a balance. Pain is not unethical. A creature in pain doesn't necessarily mean it was mistreated. A rodent in pain while being constricted has achieved it's purpose.

Now man is in the picture. Man has the power to choose what he wants to eat. Who decides what is unethical? In the Philippines they eat dogs. Other countries find this unethical. Yet, they eat cows. And now somebody like PETA comes along and says it's unethical to eat cows or even fish. So, if I understand this correctly, a wild animal can eat another wild animal but humans can't because it is unethical. A wild ball python can eat a live rodent and it's not unethical but a captive ball python eating a live rodent is unethical (oh, I know most of you don't think this, but the UK owners don't feed live because of this).

My conclusion is that some humans (a lot more in America, Canada, and the UK than anywhere else) have gotten up their high horse and has forgotten how to climb back down and now everybody else has to bow to their sense of ethics lest they be judged as a filthy scrap of humanity.

My two cents: Find a religion or a government or a book of life or something that you can believe in, use it as your "user's manual" on how to live your life on this planet to attain maximum happiness and leave everybody else and their own users manual alone.

That's the purpose of religion by the way - to be some kind of user's manual - the war happens when they try to impose their users manual on somebody else by use of force.

So in any case, as long as PETA don't forefully inject their sense of ethics on me, they can believe what they want if that's what makes them happy.

Turns off the mic and gets off the podium. I can't find a high horse... I'll just go eat my sea kitten now.

I used to work in an aquarium for several years. My job was in animal care in the fish and invertebrates department...however, sharks, stingrays, and jellyfish were my main focus. Now, I love fish and I enjoyed taking care of them. But, I also eat fish...along with cow, pig, and chicken.

I appreciate an organization trying to help animals against unnecessary cruelties, but the sea kitten thing is just ludicrous. Animals are eaten, end of story. As long as the circumstances are as humane as possible, then fine. I think dog fighting and the like is cruel. But, eating a hamburger is not the same as two dogs allowed to fight to the death, IMO.

People are omnivores...meat is a part of our diet (although, we eat more than our bodies require). That's the way it is.

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Originally Posted by Laooda

:weirdface Sea kittens...K.

Did anyone catch that Pamela Anderson show? She paraded around in a little white PETA shirt having a garage sell so she could donate all the money to PETA... at one point on the show the PETA president said something about her being one of their best supporters, and THEN! In the SAME episode... she's walking around the Playboy Mansion w/ H. Hefner and at the end of their stroll, he says something to the effect of, "Hey, would you like to go look at the monkeys?" and she replies something along the lines of, *Bounce-Bounce* "Awwwwww.... Yea! I LOVE Monkeys!!!" *Bounce-giggle-Bounce*

The monkeys are on display... as in they are in cages... as in their best supporter person is an idiot.

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Hmmmm, interesting... You wouldn't happen to know where I could see a video clip of this would you? :D:D:D:D:D:D:D