Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

I've seen it both ways but I'm in the midst of acquiring a adult pastel who is supposedly het pied. The owner is selling it to me with the idea that it isn't het cause she never got a chance to prove it out but he has the markers so I do believe that some do have the markers.

As a finally tally on my het pied results for the 2008 breeding season:

Pied X Poss het Pied with striped belly = 2 pieds
Pied X Poss het Pied with striped belly = 1 pied
Pied X Het Pied with striped belly = 5 pieds
YB Het Pied with striped belly X Het Pied with striped belly = 1 yb pied
YB Het Pied with striped belly X Het Pied with striped belly = 1 pied

I also produced approximately twenty 100% het pieds produced this year. Only 2 did not have striped bellies.

Take it how you wish.

Justin

LadyOhh, What type of Ball is the last picture you posted? That belly looks identical to the belly of my baby & I believe that she is het for Axanthic...she was a CL baby. Also, it matches the belly of my boy, who is het for Axanthic. :banana:

Wow this is an old thread, lol.

Anyone have more findings on this topic?

This season I paired a 100% het pied male with markers to a possible het pied girl with strong markers. They produced 6 babies with VERY strong markers and lots of flaming and 2 babies with no markers. Didn't prove out the female but that could have just been the odds. Next season I'm paring her with our male pied. I wont give up on her, lol.


Here is the thread to that clutch. Pgs 2 & 3.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...=119439&page=2

I don't have much to add yet because it takes me forever to grow a girl up and get eggs. I do finally have eggs incubating from two 25% chance het pied females (one 7 year old with marker's and one 9 year old without, both first clutches). Those start hatching mid August. Also estimate a couple weeks until lay on another 7 year old first clutch 25% chance het pied with good markers. Problem is the 66% chance het pied male (he is also 66% chance het albino) I bred them all to doesn't have the best markers and of course he has to hit first. I also bred all these girls last minute to my new Garcia line chocolate male so should be interesting hatch time.

Here is the broken link picture of the 2008 girl from my post above. On my schedule she should be ready to breed about 2015, lol.

http://www.snakemorphs.com/images/F0..._belly_med.jpg

I gotta say i would never buy a pos-het pied without markers. I got a friend that has proven many pos-het pieds with markers. My thoughts are if it aint got markers and someones tellin you its a pos-het pied Dont buy it! It just aint worth the risk!!! Oh ya and both my 100% het pieds(Justin Kobylka Line) have great markers...................
Thanks, Eyeball:cool:

Excellent read!

I have 1.1 het pieds and both have very strong markers. I also have a male Albino 50% het Pied...When I breed him, I will definitely be looking for markers on the hatchlings. If he throws animals that have the belly markers, I will feel very confident in breeding him to a het Pied or pied female. He will likely not breed until next season though.

Edit: Here is my Albino 50% Het Pied male. The goofy pattern on the tail has me excited. My het Pieds also have this.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...s/DSCN3060.jpg

P.s. Here is my het Male's markers

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...y/DSC_0184.jpg

I believe most all recessive traits show some type of markers, making them not as hidden as most people believe.