inbreeding

Alright, what i was saying is this:
Inbreeding limits genetic diversity of over done, With new blood it is better, but just look at the snake ban/limitation proposial, with the lacy act. If anything of that sort passes, or African countries which are becomeing more and more geared towards saving and preserving there wildlife stop imporation. Then 20-30 years down the road, eventually many animals will be related. As you see with austrailian animals, like beardies. I was saying it does not help genetic diversity in any way, at the moment we have the ability to ship in new blood when needed, but regardless of that, it does not help genetic diversity and when importation stops which i see happening in the future, inbreeding will hurt the species. Thats what im saying, At the moment it is irrelevant to genetic diversity, but the moment we cant get new blood, it becomes so. Its just something to keep in mind.

With ball pythons, not at the moment, but again you cant as a person who loves a species look at the now. In recent years, Humans discovered thousands of diseases, many genetic, others not that can harm us. Just because its not there now, doesnt mean it wont be tomarrow. Science is not fact, its a gathering of continual evidence that points a certain way. You cant say its not there without evidence of so.

I understand co-doms doo. And petstores too, along with many imported new morphs and fancy normals, petstore animals that are usually sick, but still WC or CH.

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Needing only one generation of mother son breeding to get the homozygous form.

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I understand thats true, But lets look at it from a perspective of a new morph thats in demand. Let say a snake is found, Breed and none are similar, The son is breed back, You get the phenotype you are looking for. What now? How do you create more? Lets say you have the homozygoes morph, What now? Breed it to a sibling? breed for more hets? then breed back? Its very hard to get genetic diversity in a recessive morph without reducing the chance of that being in that animal. So where you can prove it out with 1 set of inbreeding. To create more in general takes more.

I guess as a younger keeper than most, I look more at the future of the species in concern, then the present to prove something out. We may have 400 seperate expensive cool morphs, but its no good if the animal has health problems and has trouble surviving.

Needing only one generation of mother son breeding to get the homozygous form.

Anyway we obvoisly have differerent views as i would suspect everyone would have somewhat different ideas, or im not making myself clear. all i was originally trying to say was that in many cases it can be bad, but it has its place in designer animals, and wont loose it unless in need. But in general, it should not be done without a specific purpose. And in most cases it is only done for a purpose, but there are still people who take a albino and normal, then cross a offspring back with its parent to save money, and that is where it becomes irresonsible.

Have a great night,
Ben

Personally, I did not want an inbred snake.* (Just my own personal feelings on the matter.) So when I visited the Expo where I planned to buy, I asked before considering the breeder. I looked them right in the eye and just openly asked the question. They were quite honest with me. Anyway, I found one breeder who expressed my own feelings on the matter and assured me that none of his snakes were inbred or backbred, so I bought from him.

I only have the one BP so I am not an expert, and I am in no way trying to make claims about all BPs in general. However, what I can tell you about my lil’guy is that he is everything I’ve read a BP is supposed to be, personality wise. He is shy but friendly when handled, curious but not wild, slow-moving and calm, and he has never bitten or even hissed at me. I’ve never seen him adopt any sort of aggressive stance. With a few months of gentle handling once or twice a week he does not even ball up on me anymore.

That’s my personal story and take on it.