NERD Lemon vs Graziani Pastel

I like the screamers and really dont like the washed out pastels, though I have not seen them in person. I agree that White Diamond has produced some of the best pastels ever.<---Period

I like the first Graziani from the previous post, and I am surprised how well it has kept color.

As for the previous post about mojo/lesser/butter, I know they can all be crossed to produce Blue Lucy's, but I dont think there is a difference between lesser and butter, but that Mojo is a separate morph that happens to also carrie the gene on the same locus as the Butter/Lesser.

I have NERD, Graziani, and Bell line pastels. Personally, I like Bell line pastels best, then NERD second, and Graziani last. I like Bells the best because they have more pinks and oranges to them. NERD's are very yellow and black, and Graziani's are more brown with a lot of blushing.

i prefer graziani.
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Constrictors Unlimited Lemon Pastel.

Why? They have more pictures, you can look at them online, and they are absolutely stunning. They're actually NERD Lemon Pastels, HOWEVER unlike NERD CU actually updates its site and has current price listings. You can see them when they are old enough to be sold, unlike NERD who almost never update their site and I'm assuming you have to contact them for anything. There is no real ability to window shop there and, well... I find it really annoying when I check their site.

CU's site and section on Lemons:

http://www.constrictors.com/Collecti...allPython.html

Also, they don't have any at the moment and I'm waiting for an email back about when they will be available. But man they are beautiful.

holy cow the patterns on the girl you have are so clean and well defined nice nice nice

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Originally Posted by mricyfire

I would say Lemons...but only with tons of blushing...

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100% agree! Thst is actually what i'm getting next at an expo

Supposedly, the Graziani line of Pastel should have a high level of blushing, and the black, more faded. The Lemon line should have darker black, which might make for a nicer contrast with the yellow.

The Lemon Pastel, in my opinion, is a marketing strategy. I really do not think they are any more or less desireable than any other Pastel.

The Enchi is not really a Pastel, at least not in the sense we are discussing here.

The only Pastel I would pay a premium for is a Stonewashed Ruppel Pastel.

If you are looking to buy, you are probably going to be dissapointed with 90% of the Pastels you would buy, as a baby, once it reaches adulthood. My advice, buy a Ruppel, or buy a nice looking adult, since you know what it will continue to look like. OR, your best bet, buy a Pastel cross...most are stunning....Sulfur, Vanilla, Fire crosses.

Dave

Can some one help me identify my pastel please? what line do you think he is?
Does he look like a graziani?
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correct me if i'm wrong but isnt there just no way of telling unless the breeder tells you?

If wouldnt even know what to guess tho cause i'd say graziani from the blushing but lemon from the color...maybe just a non-faded graziani?

Heres the thing. The "lines" of pastels are merely animals that were line bred for a specific trate. To say that a Lemon can't have loads of blushing or that one from Greg's line can't be a screaming yellow snake isn't true.

Unless you bought your animal from a breeder that is working with a direct line and breeding to maintain that lines looks then its not a NERD Line Lemon or a Bell Line or a Graziani Line.. It's just a pastel.

That doesn't mean it isn't as good an animal as the "line" bred..it just means that the breeder bred a Pastel and you bought a pastel.