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  • 01-23-2007, 08:07 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: cinnamon pastel vs. black pastel
    Also from what I read was the type/quality of pastel has alot to do with the look. I don't have experience myself but I do alot of research into all the designer morphs I am working on. I assume the black or cinny used will affect the look as well.

    By the way Albey great pics and thanks for the info. I am always eager to learn from those who know more and appreciate those who are willing to share their experience.
  • 01-23-2007, 08:26 PM
    ECLARK
    Re: cinnamon pastel vs. black pastel
    Albey, I agree theres alot of confusion with these 2 morphs and alittle time and breeding results will clear things up, I hope! HAHAHA :P
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albey
    Ed,
    Actually that is not true. The Cinnamons produce Silver Streaks also. There was some confusion a few years ago because Mark Mandic claimed to produce what he thought was a Super Pastel/Cinnamon that looked completely different from a Super Pastel/Black Pastel but he was proven wrong. Later that year both he and Greg Graziani produced a real one. :sunny:

    Here is a picture of four of them. From top left corner going counter clockwise you have the Pastel Jungle, The Cinnamon, The Pewter, and then in the top right hand corner the Silver Streak. I produced the first three and Greg Graziani produced the Silver Streak. I added that picture to mine.

    http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images...br06_4past.jpg

    Albey :)

  • 01-23-2007, 08:40 PM
    tigerlily
    Re: cinnamon pastel vs. black pastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albey
    Ed,
    Actually that is not true. The Cinnamons produce Silver Streaks also. There was some confusion a few years ago because Mark Mandic claimed to produce what he thought was a Super Pastel/Cinnamon that looked completely different from a Super Pastel/Black Pastel but he was proven wrong. Later that year both he and Greg Graziani produced a real one. :sunny:

    Here is a picture of four of them. From top left corner going counter clockwise you have the Pastel Jungle, The Cinnamon, The Pewter, and then in the top right hand corner the Silver Streak. I produced the first three and Greg Graziani produced the Silver Streak. I added that picture to mine.

    http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images...br06_4past.jpg

    Albey :)

    Are you saying that the Silver Streak was produced and photographed by Greg Graziani and that you cut and pasted it into a picture of your own animals? :confuzd:
  • 01-23-2007, 08:49 PM
    ECLARK
    Re: cinnamon pastel vs. black pastel
    If im not mistaken, the cinnamon breeding produces Silver Bullets! :)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albey
    Ed,
    Actually that is not true. The Cinnamons produce Silver Streaks also. There was some confusion a few years ago because Mark Mandic claimed to produce what he thought was a Super Pastel/Cinnamon that looked completely different from a Super Pastel/Black Pastel but he was proven wrong. Later that year both he and Greg Graziani produced a real one. :sunny:

    Here is a picture of four of them. From top left corner going counter clockwise you have the Pastel Jungle, The Cinnamon, The Pewter, and then in the top right hand corner the Silver Streak. I produced the first three and Greg Graziani produced the Silver Streak. I added that picture to mine.

    http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images...br06_4past.jpg

    Albey :)

  • 01-23-2007, 09:10 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: cinnamon pastel vs. black pastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tigerlily
    Are you saying that the Silver Streak was produced and photographed by Greg Graziani and that you cut and pasted it into a picture of your own animals? :confuzd:

    That is what he said, Nice catch.... Albey and Greg are pretty close friends, Dont get wound up.. Awesome animals Albey!!
  • 01-23-2007, 09:17 PM
    iceman25
    Re: cinnamon pastel vs. black pastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS
    That is what he said, Nice catch.... Albey and Greg are pretty close friends, Dont get wound up.. Awesome animals Albey!!

    Why don't you let Albey answer the question.
  • 01-23-2007, 09:23 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: cinnamon pastel vs. black pastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iceman25
    Why don't you let Albey answer the question.You ass!

    Is that anyway to treat a member of this forum? What a Mod you are...
  • 01-23-2007, 09:24 PM
    iceman25
    Re: cinnamon pastel vs. black pastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS
    Is that anyway to treat a member of this forum? What a Mod you are...

    Keep pushing the envelope buddy..keep on pushing it.. :)
  • 01-23-2007, 09:27 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: cinnamon pastel vs. black pastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iceman25
    Keep pushing the envelope buddy..keep on pushing it.. :)

    Bite Me!
  • 01-23-2007, 09:34 PM
    iceman25
    Re: cinnamon pastel vs. black pastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS
    Bite Me!

    As for me calling u an Ass, well lets just say the database knows what was written and what was added by you... :sweeet: :gj:
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