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Agh internal parasites

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  • 04-28-2006, 10:36 AM
    Shelby
    Re: Agh internal parasites
    Ok. Can you tell me how many pills are needed? I'm sorry, ccs and mLs and everything is running circles in my brain. lol If a snake needs .1 mL how much of a cc is that? Is a mL a specific portion of a cc?

    I weighed my female dumeril yesterday.. she's 9960g I weighed the baby sand boa a few weeks ago and she's 6g.
  • 04-28-2006, 11:10 AM
    Shelby
    Re: Agh internal parasites
    Ok I measured the rest of the snakes

    snow corn snake 188g
    hog island boa 5560g
    jungle carpet 200g

    Sorry to ask you again, but what size syringes should I get? I'll get two for each snake (who are getting two medications anyway)
  • 05-01-2006, 01:51 AM
    Shelby
    Re: Agh internal parasites
    Ok I have another question. I was looking online for praziquantel because it's so darn expensive at petsmart, I wanted to get it cheaper.

    Anway, I found Drontal Plus which has praziquantel, pyrantel pamoate, and another drug called febantel. It's for dogs. I wonder if it would work for snakes.. if so then it's only one thing to mix up and administer instead of two different drugs. Here is where I found it: http://www.1800petmeds.com/pgroup.as...SP=dog&MG=22.7
  • 05-01-2006, 02:55 AM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Agh internal parasites
    1mL=1cc Same thing, same difference :)

    I would get the Drontal Plus as I have no experience with the other drug or what reactions it may/may not cause. Drontal/Droncit can be quite expensive, so if you can find generic Praziquantel, that would be easier on you. I would safely say you would need around 10-15 pills. Some of your snakes may use more than one pill while some may use less than one. You can always get 20 and save them for later.

    0.1mL is 0.1cc, some syringes are marked with mL's and some are marked cc's. I switch around so it isn't confusing(even if it seems to be), and it keeps everything on track(hopefully, LoL).

    The ones who are getting 2 syringes(or one for each snake if you go with Drontal Plus) are the ones who are at 500g or greater as it is much easier to calculate their dose rather than guess. If you use the Drontal Plus, you could just give each snake their dose for the Praziquantel and be done with it all. Much less hassle. You're going to need a couple different sizes of syringes, but if we can find out each snake's dose, then we can see how many of each size you will need.

    Let's do some math here:
    Dumeril's weighs 9960g and the dose for Praziquantel is 8mg/kg and the concentration of each pill is 22.7mg/pill.

    9.96 x 8 = 79.68 total mg
    79.68mg/ 22.7mg = 3.5 total pills for this girl

    The formula is Weight in Kg x Recommended Dosage
    Concentration of drug(mg/mL or mg/pill)

    This will help everyone if they come to be in this situation. It's always good to double check things(and triple check...).
  • 05-01-2006, 11:55 AM
    Shelby
    Re: Agh internal parasites
    Ok, now it makes sense! I love it when I'm not confused. lol

    So you think I should get some drontal plus even though you're not sure about the febantel? I like that both pyrantel and prazi are in the one pill so I only have to give one syringe per snake.

    I'm guessing that the 3.5 pills for the dumeril will also contain enough pyrantel to kill the other parasites?

    I'm saving your math formula for later use.
  • 05-01-2006, 03:04 PM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Agh internal parasites
    I would just get the Drontal Plus and see how that goes for everyone. You can always go pick up a tube of Pyrantel for horses at a feed store and go that route if the drug dosages for the Drontal get to be too small.

    Yep, the 3.5 pills the Dum needs should take care of anything and everything(if she has anything).
  • 05-01-2006, 11:27 PM
    Shelby
    Re: Agh internal parasites
    Ok sounds good! Tomorrow or wednesday I'll figure out how many pills I should order and then get syringes and all that good stuff.

    Do you have any tips for administering the meds without letting the snake spit it all out or getting the medicine everywhere but down the snake's throat? lol..
  • 05-02-2006, 04:35 PM
    Shelby
    Re: Agh internal parasites
    Alright now.. need more help. I used your math formula.. and for example my 12g kingsnake would need .0042 of a pill.. how on earth do I figure that out?

    Also does it matter how much water I mix with the pills to administer them, and should I grind up the pills first to make them dissolve better?

    Oh and am I going to need to give them this more than once.. like in a week or two, or is once enough to get rid of the parasites?
  • 05-02-2006, 09:30 PM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Agh internal parasites
    Just round up and give the snake 0.01-0.02ml. It's nearly impossible to dose that small unless you have a 0.5cc tuberculin syringe(and those are tineensy).

    To maintain the proper dosage for everyone, crush each pill up separately and put in 1cc of water. One pill to one cc. Makes it easier.

    You would give everyone the meds now and again in two weeks.
  • 05-03-2006, 01:28 AM
    Shelby
    Re: Agh internal parasites
    Ok will do. thanks! -and I'll let you know how it goes.
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