Finally...

Brothers and sisters from the same clutch can be bred together, just like a baby can be bred back to its parent, with no problem (in fact, if there IS some genetic problem that inbreeding would make worse, it's safer to breed brother and sister than parent to baby because there is a chance neither baby inherited the 'bad' thing). Inbreeding becomes a problem when you do it over and over and over and never bring unrelated snakes in, or when you breed snakes that you know have genetic problems.

I see something in that last picture that worries me... First of all, it looks like you just have them on particle board. PLEASE put some sort of substrate in there; even newspaper. It's free (I use it for all my garters, and when I'm running low I just go to the grocery store and grab an entire stack of those free real-estate listings on my way out and shove them into my shopping cart lol) and easy to clean and replace.
But the thing that worries me is there looks like a hole in it and metal mesh under it. You need to get that covered up... If there's a way for a snake to rub their nose against something or get cut on it, they WILL figure out how to and end up injuring themselves eventually.

Particle board.?? Look at some of my early posts that is substrate on top of cut bed sheets for EASY cleaning when needed, people on on here talk about how I couldn't get them to copulate the way I have their enclosure set up.. I remember someone on here stating that I HAD THE WORST ball python housing, LMAO[emoji1][emoji1]..The rack system is for the breeding a whole bunch of BPs....


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https://vimeo.com/136887104 bet all y'all NAYSAYERS surprised...[emoji108]🏿[emoji1][emoji1][emoji1]


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Lmfao this dude is so funny. I've never seen a worse enclosure in my life. Atleast get tubs??

Play nice kids. :rolleyes:

Wow dummy

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Mr. Echo, I know you do not answer any questions that people ask you but I pray to god you answer this one.

In that video, the one you just posted. Is that your brand new 490 gram pastel in with you other snake? I ask this because you literally just purchased that animal on July 15th.

Proof: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...-my-collection

That really, is absolutely disgusting on your part that you have had absolutely no quarantine procedure done with this animal. You have NO idea what this guy came in with. I see now why you refused to answer any question I posted in regards to quarantine, because you literally had no quarantine, at all.

Not only is that animal not old enough, or heavy enough to breed. You have put that animal's life at risk by doing this. And you have put that "female" at risk by doing this too.

I still want to see your incubator that you allegedly have. But I don't think it truly exists.

But I have now officially confirmed my earlier thought that you do not care about these animals, and you really are just in it for the money. Part of me hopes that this goes terribly wrong for you, but the other part of me hopes it doesn't I hope you haven't sacrificed your animals in order to make yourself money.

I'm done trying to help you. There is no point. You will not take any shred of advice that anyone will give you. I sincerely hope you just go away, but I know its not going to happen, you have a vendetta against everyone here, and you want to prove us "naysayers" that you are right, even if it means sacrificing the well being of your animals.

You give ball python keepers, and potential breeders everywhere a horrible name, because even though you continue to say you do, you clearly do not care for your animals.

You've had that female housed with one male or another for five years from what I can gather... One lockup in five years is not breeding success. Pandas have a higher sex drive than that. No eggs after five years is a sign something is off.

Also, I agree with everything Montypython said about quarantine and appropriate size for breeding.

Its already been proven that this guy has no care or concern about his animals or to listen to any advice given.
He is all about himself and trying to play breeder but not having a clue with one hole from another.
I appreciate those that are typing these long books but to be honest, less is more with this one. SMH

It's gross. He'll have three snakes that he still haven't proved he can provide for correctly, and then he's going to BREED those snakes and hope something nice comes out, but then he'll have 4-8 regular normal babies that he'll need to house and feed and that won't sell for more than 20 bucks a pop, so now he'll have anywhere from 7 to nearly a dozen snakes... These are the kinds of people that end up in the news as hoarders and give the rest of the hobby a bad name.