What is the best example of....

I really dig your Enchi, Lesser and Cinny.

We should stop te bickering and just let the thread go on as it was intended to: people posting pics of snakes that they think are superb examples of a morph. Everyone gets that theres preferences blah blah blah. But until something like the american kennel club is created then there wont be set differences that we agree on. So far I have really enjoyed seeing what other ppl consider good/bad examples. I agree with some and disagree with others. :)

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

But until something like the american kennel club is created then there wont be set differences that we agree on.

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It's extremely easy to start a club. I mean, I could literally do it right now just by saying 'I now start the Ball Pythons of America club!'. :P

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Originally Posted by jinx667

Pins are a good example. I like a unbroken stripe on my Pins and Pin combos.

Here is my Jigsaw girl:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...WHISKEYWM1.jpg

I like that her stripe is not broken (but could be more perfect), and there is a decided color difference with the gold of the stripe and the brown/white on the sides.

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Funny how your "Jigsaw" looks just like a king pin or butter pin, whatever you like to call it...

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

We should stop te bickering and just let the thread go on as it was intended to: people posting pics of snakes that they think are superb examples of a morph. Everyone gets that theres preferences blah blah blah. But until something like the american kennel club is created then there wont be set differences that we agree on. So far I have really enjoyed seeing what other ppl consider good/bad examples. I agree with some and disagree with others. :)

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Funny how all of these threads seem to end up with people bickering....

The best example is honestly the one you are truly happy with. What some consider to be the best looking lessers, I consider boring. Some love high yellow pastels, some love blushing... I prefer high yellow with almost a black back stripe but still a degree of blushing. Are you happy with the morphs you have acquired?? That's all that matters!:gj:

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Originally Posted by Andy_G

Funny how all of these threads seem to end up with people bickering....

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Personally I think it's funny how everybody thinks that their personal snake is the "best example" of the said morph. No offense OP.

I think if a snake was the "best example" of the morph the breeder would most likely be holding it back. I know I would.

I think the work "best" need not be thrown around at all. Representative is the more proper word I guess.

Either way for the folks that think this is a stupid exercise, there are tons of other threads to check out. I appreciate the positive replies and even the constructive critical ones. And I especially appreciate getting to see the sweet snakes.

As I have repeatedly stated, I just want to see what each person looks for in a morph to see if some themes develop. So either folks can contribute to that end, or not.

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Funny how your "Jigsaw" looks just like a king pin or butter pin, whatever you like to call it...

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Actually, it looks more like a jigsaw. Once you've seen enough kingpins and jigsaws, you would be able to tell the difference :P.

Also, I don't see any bickering o_O. I see people stating their opinions, then I see others who have a different opinion. It seems more like a discussion than bickering or arguing. After all, that's what the forums are for lol...

Lots of interesting points raised. I'll restrain myself from writing a six page, largely redundant dissertation on the topic (for now, anyway :rolleyes:) in lieu of some picture posting, as requested ...

This is a female pastel that I no longer own. I would grade her as dead average to slightly below. She has a bold black pattern but is FAR too busy for my liking. Her color is okay, not poop brown, but certainly not yellow. I think this picture makes her look a little uglier than she is, but she isn't great either.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...rvana/Zoey.jpg

This is a female pastel that I no longer own (at least for now); I would grade her as average to slightly above. What I look for in pastels is a reduced pattern, which she has, with some blushing, which she has but not a ton of. She's darker and not as bright as I would like.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...08PastelF3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7.../08PastelF.jpg

This is a female pastel that I DO still own and who isn't going anywhere anytime soon :) She has pretty much everything that I look for in a pastel: very reduced pattern, lots of blushing, and really good color. This picture does her little justice in the color department, and in fact, one thing I love about her is that she's retained that color so very well as she has aged and grown.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...Gingersnap.jpg

This picture shows her color a bit better (with her sister in the center):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...agongirls2.jpg