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  • 11-03-2011, 03:19 PM
    The Hedgehog
    Re: Forget about rescuing the pythons in the Everglades, let's just kill them all -.-
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh View Post
    What I am saying is they are fighting an unwinable war. Burms are now a permanent part of the Everglades. No doubt they will change the ecosystem, but it is already too late to stop.

    Don't worry, the world isn't going to end as a result. Not even close. Nature finds ways of workings things out.

    Well, I guess it won't matter when we won't have half the everglades we have now in 10 years....Huh?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    He wasn't arguing that removing them was a bad idea, I don't think.

    I think he was saying that it's impossible, no matter how hard we try, to be successful.

    Nothing is "impossible".
  • 11-03-2011, 04:34 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: Forget about rescuing the pythons in the Everglades, let's just kill them all -.-
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by The Hedgehog View Post
    Well, I guess it won't matter when we won't have half the everglades we have now in 10 years....Huh?

    Sure, I get it... you are fighting the good fight.

    Problem is, it still isn't going to fix anything. You could spend billions and billions of dollars on an all out assault against the Burms of the everglades... when all is said and done, they will still be there. They always will be.

    Keep an open recreational hunting season on them year round.
    That will keep their numbers in check to a certain extent. Let them harvest the meat and the skins. Let the meat and the skins be sold or traded privately.
  • 11-03-2011, 05:21 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Please offer a reasonably priced solution for eliminating all burmese pythons in the Everglades without wiping out any of the native species.

    I'll wait.
  • 11-03-2011, 06:24 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Forget about rescuing the pythons in the Everglades, let's just kill them all -.-
    There's never been a "rescue" of pythons out of the Everglades. You have to have a license to hunt them, and part of that license states that any python found is to be killed.

    It's no fault of the pythons, but they are an invasive pest in the Everglades. I don't have any heartache over this.
  • 11-04-2011, 09:37 PM
    jason_ladouceur
    Re: Forget about rescuing the pythons in the Everglades, let's just kill them all -.-
    you are all in luck. I’ve figured it all out. we will just release 3 or 4 thousand Ophiophagus hannah into the glades. they will turn the tides for us. after all this type of approach has worked great in Australia.:rolleyes:
  • 11-04-2011, 10:07 PM
    mr.spooky
    Re: Forget about rescuing the pythons in the Everglades, let's just kill them all -.-
    so what everybodys afraid of is giant snakes controling the everglades? i doubt it.. i dont have giants, but how often do they eat a meal of aproprate size,,, about once a month??/ that means that if there were 20 giants per sq. mile (thats a HUGE over shot),, there would be about 240 deer ate a year. thats not a hole lot concitering that the state of ga allows me (one person) to kill 12 deer a year.. im not sure how many thousands of 12+ permits ga issues each year.
    anyway,, before they get out of control,, the gov. will figure out a way to capitolize on the whole thing. truth be known,, this "invasion" is an inside job anyway... no need to think that the eco system is going to be wiped out,, everything is OK, the state will sell permits, the people will buy them, there will be braggin rights,, and before you know it,, the state will be charging twice as much for permits, and the limit will be lowered just to keep the populations high enough to satisify the demand of the hunters.
    just how i see it
    spooky
  • 11-04-2011, 10:21 PM
    jason_ladouceur
    Re: Forget about rescuing the pythons in the Everglades, let's just kill them all -.-
    Mr. Spooky. seriously your avatar is way to cute.:gj:
  • 11-04-2011, 10:25 PM
    Bestinthehaven
    Re: Forget about rescuing the pythons in the Everglades, let's just kill them all -.-
    :banana:call me crazy but the thought of having a giant snake living in wild populations in north america makes me smile. and lets not pull punches... if they rarely eat thos tiny people in asia, what makes anyone think they are gonna try to tackle our fat american asses. seriously. let them alone, let them kill of the nutria and other vermin that really pose a problem down there. who knows maybe in a few years there will be enough to have a regulated hunting season for them, and if you really want that snake skin wallet or belt or boots, or all of the above if it's big enough, go get one yourself. i think that would be great especially if they said "hey, these things arent the fastest animals on earth, lets even the odds... hunting burmese pythons is legal with a spear only. harvesting with any other method is illegal." that would seperate the men from the boys... just sayin:snake::gj:
  • 11-05-2011, 01:58 AM
    jjmitchell
    Re: Forget about rescuing the pythons in the Everglades, let's just kill them all -.-
    I dont know perhaps I am wrong, but all invasive species should be eradicated. I am all for our rights to own these animals, but we have to be responsible. It is no different than invasive hogs, nutria, ect.... Now that being said, I am curious why we continue to import burms, we have imported them to the point of threatening wild native populations. I would suggest that adults that are found be euthanized, gravid females be allowed to lay and wild laid clutches harvested to fill the need of wild caught or import burms.... It would keep us going, help deal with the invasive species, and help the native populations recoop. Yes we may have fewer cheap babies to fill pet stores, but that will actually help breeders, and the market. Supply and demand there is the same demand and half the supply, guess what your captive hatched normals will be worth 2-3 times what they are now in a few short years
    I by no means have an answer to this problem, but have been doing a good bit of research on it. I know it sucks, I hate the idea of it but the invasive species (even the ones we like) need to be removed
  • 11-05-2011, 08:18 PM
    majorleaguereptiles
    Unfortunately, wild burmese pythons are the reason why state legislature is trying to ban all large pythons, and many other exotics throughout the country. The fact of the matter is, there is a possibility that could very well happen, even to the point for all pythons and boas, including ball pythons. That is very unlikely, but the fact is the government has the power to do this and nobody can deny that. So the sooner we get a control on these wild pythons in the states, the less likely bans will occur. That being said, the easiest way to do this is by killing them. Nobody is going to adopt a wild burmese, and nobody is going to pay to relocate them to southeast asia either. It's a very unfortunate situation, but people in our community need to support removing these pythons, or else it will ruin everything. Problem is, it's so bad it won't ever happen.
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