Meet the Screwball

See now, I am torn:confused:
I was like all " ohh cool" then you "SCREWED" that!!!
Most of us are getting into balls just for the "cool what could I make" factor.
I dont want to get rich off of it and could care less if I made a new combo, I just want to have fun doing it.
Teasing is an okay thing to do but you could show life photos of the daddy, watermarks and backgrounds are hard to fake and or claim. You might have been in the snake game a long time but you sure dont know anything about protecting yourself.
I really do want to be happy for you but the way your attitude seems to change in all of your posts makes it hard.
A couple things to remember:
You posted in an open forum
You or (big name breeder) would get the same treatment from me just because I dont give a _____ either way.
You really should quit playing the "if I was a big breeder" card, its just as sad as the "race card" and people that play from that deck usually prove others right;)
AND I could add another 700 views to this thread in a couple of mins just by backing out and coming back in.

You might have "coined" the name but you also might have just made it a race to see who could copyright it first.

If you are that paranoid maybe you shouldnt be posting or using the internet at all, you can be traced:O

Sincerely,
Robert Martinez AKA pitontheprowl
Lowlife first year breeder that has only been in the game for a little over a year and make huge leaps and bounds:cool:

Wow, that is all I can say. Actually all I am going to say is it is hard to name something before ever proving it out. I hope you do have something new, a new gene to bring to the table would be amazing.

I won't touch on the personality conflict stuff.

... I will say that from what I've observed the "big guys" do, the usually teaser paradigm goes something like this:

1. Show 1-2 pictures or a few seconds' worth of video of something EXTREMELY cool.

2. Don't reveal how to make it.

3. Wait awhile, release more cool pictures of secret stuff. Let the hype build.

4. Reveal secret ingredient.

... You show the coolest, craziest combo that you can make with that morph FIRST. Then, once everybody wants one of that combo, you can start to release offspring of the "ingredient(s)" you need to make said morph. You've drummed up a huge demand for that next big thing even before anybody knew what it was.

If Tom Baker had just posted a picture of a "special" ball and said, "Hey, look, it's genetic!" nobody would've paid much mind because frankly, the special isn't all that much to look at. The crystal, though -- now that's something to drum up demand!

Ditto for the HG-woma combo stuff. The HG-woma is kinda cool looking, but what you can do with it ..!

So to the OP, I think the reason everyone is getting on your case about this (again, personality conflict aside) is because thus far, you've shown one theoretical "ingredient," which, without having seen any wacky offspring thereof, looks pretty much just like a nice pastel; and you've told a story. You haven't dropped any "bombs," so to speak. That's not to say that you aren't sitting on something cool, and it's not to say that you have to reveal the more subtle "ingredient" animals needed to make the really cool stuff. It just means that you seem to want people to talk, but right now, other than a fractious debate, you haven't given "the community" anything to talk about. Y'know?

... Again, not saying that's cause to crap on your project; just saying that's probably why nobody's ooh-ing and aww-ing. (Is that how you spell that?)

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Originally Posted by snake lab

700 people have viewed this thread in 3 days. Thats 700 people that now know the name.screwball. so when it does produce which i am convinced it will the word and buzz about the animal will always be out. I have my reasons. You may not agree but you now know of the screwball.

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Lol I hate to burst your bubble buddy... Obviously you have been keeping up with the thread constantly... So probably 100 of those clicks are you. I and a few others have obviously been keeping up with it too so that is another 500+... As for the other 100, I am sure most that most probably scrolled down to the picture and saw only a pastel and didnt bother reading the long story. So yes there are probably 20 people who will think of this thread when they here the word "screwball". I can't promise though that they will have the snake in mind.

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Originally Posted by snake lab

I will bet anything if ralph or kevin or vin came on here and posted something like this nobody on here would be saying a thing but puckering up.

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Please stop name dropping. It makes you look silly. Now that you mention it though, I don't remember a time when Ralph or Kevin or any of the other "Big Breeders" came onto these forums posting a picture of a pastel and claiming it to be something new....

I also don't recall any of them talking about some amazing new morph baby that died in the egg. Any breeder that has experienced a ball python baby that didn't survive out of the egg can tell you that even a Normal baby looks like a new morph when it hasn't fully developed.

But rest assured, if any of these big time breeders did come forward with a picture of a pastel claiming it to be a new morph, they would get called out. There are plenty of people on this wonderful forum that have absolutely no problem calling people out. :cool: We value these members here because they keep people honest, and in the end makes for more enjoyable reading.

To the OP. Just because you have years of experience doesn't mean others are less knowledgeable. You haven't insulted me, but I'm just speaking in general. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I guarantee most breeders who do this for a living have had their fair share of criticism but I can also guarantee thay handled it in a professional manner.

Im not insulting you about experience im just explaining that ive been doing this alo.g time and thats why im hesitant on posting pics of a baby that could be a fluke thing. Now if i had produced a number of them it would be a different story. I apoligize if i came across insulting you. Thats not what my intentions were. This is a game of playing mad scientist. Any way you cut it. The only ball python the way nature intended it to be is a normal. They are the the strongest in the gene pool. This is why on most of your crosses and combos you always have the percentage of babies being normal looking out of the egg. Every morph is created by manipulating the gene pool. So yes we are playing god by producing weird looking morphs. All of your morphs are created this way. Alot of the morphs that came in from the wild are produced by captive breeders in africa and then sent over. This is true. But some do come from the bush. But not the morphs you see created to a scale we have in the breeding industry. It was breeders that found out what happens when you do selective breedings or combo breedings. The reason i chose the name was cause the baby produced was nothing like the sire animal in question. So it was screwy looking. Hence the name. But to say the name screwball is somehow a derogitory name is just rediculous. What happens if someone produces a bluish colored snake. You know it will be called a blueball. This thread has gotten way off base. From what it was intended. I will take some blame for that because i have had to defend my decision not to post a pic of a baby that i cant prove without a doubt what it is. But i will have my answers this spring. I have it going back to the original normal girl i produced the baby from as well as about 5 grand worth of morph girls. So based on the fact im going to put that kind of money into a breeding shot in thw dark means i believe strongly in the outcome. So dont you think if i thought it was nothing but a pastel i wouldnt waste valuble girls on a breeding like that? Like the name or not if it does pan out it will be another new exciting morph to work with.

WOW! This is a drama filled post.I can see both sides. I'd love to see the "special baby", but I also understand why you do not what to post it until you can be sure of the genetics. Let's stop the hating and look forward to some possible new genetics(since the mother was a wild caught).

Good luck in future breeding projects, and hopefuly it will prove out and we can see some pics......:D

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Originally Posted by snake lab

What happens if someone produces a bluish colored snake. You know it will be called a blueball.

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Ugghh...let's hope not...:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by sho220

Ugghh...let's hope not...:rolleyes:

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I second that.

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Originally Posted by MS2

WOW! This is a drama filled post.

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