Ball Python Eating Puppies?

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Originally Posted by snakechow

and to believe every petstore or big professional breeder will do all alright and do not harm any law is some kind of ignorant.
when you run a business you will do nearly everything to make a good amount in most cases.

so there will be many of them that will dying during permanent stress, but it will work cause if they buy a bigger amount of the they will be that cheap they don't have to care about nearly the half of them never will be sold.
same with breeding the more you breed the less you need to care about that some of them get ill and dying.
proper care and keeping will cost more than you will lost by dying of a various number of animals.
that's a fact!

business is to make money no less no more.

there will be only a very few the care about the animal have a higher stand than the money.
and these mostly will have problems to survive cause they have higher prices.
i clearly say not everyone is doing this that bad but the most for sure!
believe it or not, it's just sad if you don't see this.

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Ok, so I trimmed this down to the parts that I found downright offensive and ignorant. Do NOT lump breeders and pet stores into the same diatribe about animal mistreatment. The majority of pet stores do treat animals as commodities, and nothing else. Spend more than a couple of days on this site, however, and you will find that there are a great many members who are also breeders and place the animals' health and quality at the top of their priorities. Even "big" breeders aren't in the business just for the money. I mean, really?! They couldn't find any better cash cow than playing with rodent and snake feces every day? This business isn't THAT profitable.

i 'm from austria, was trying my very best to wrote understandable but english is not my first language.

sorry if i 'm wrong about this, but that is what you can read everywere and it was saying by expected to that people so i was believe it.
so please tell me up to what size it's secure to handle a snake alone?
i don't mean just carring one in a tame mood, i mean if the snake surely trys to kill you.
up to what size an adult will be able to escape for sure?

addictional add:
i don't meam hobby breeders that do it for teir own, i meant profssional breeding farms.

Ease of handling has very little to do with length and more to do with how strong the snake is. I've handled 9" bullsnakes, carpet pythons, burms, all by my self without any problem whatsoever. There have been other snakes that I did not feel comfortable handling by myself, some were even less then 9 feet, and while I did not need help in the actual handling, I did have someone in the room spotting for me. The determination on whether or not to handle a snake by yourself should be made on a snake by snake basis, and not according to what some 'internet expert' tells you.

I remember Melissa Kaplan when she was very active on the rec.pets.herp newsgroup 20 years ago. she pretty much became the expert by simply shouting everyone else down. She has some experience in keeping iguanas and that's about it. She didn't have any actual experience keeping other reptiles that she has care sheets for on her website. Her Anapsid website was pretty much cobbled together from articles and posts 'borrowed' from other internet sites, many of which were not accurate to begin with. Unfortunately, at that time her website was about the only place to go for information that was all in one place so it became popular despite all the inaccuracies. In any case it hasn't been changed for 20 years and anything that might have been a little bit helpful in the past is woefully out of date.

thank you for that needfull explain!:gj:
it seems i have to excuse me for my post about this, i 'm very sorry about.
now just wondering about so much keeper and care taker of such big snakes tell this to the public.
if i ever had known that it is no problem to care such a snake save without any other person by your side, i 'm sure i would had think about to keep one by my own in the past.
actual i' m not in the mood to do, but may in a few years i will think about this again.
it's sad that so much "expected" people say something wrong about this!

Personally, I blame Bambi. It is the epitome of humanizing animals and its pattern has been repeated and copied many times. It's only in the past 100 years or so that dogs and cats transitioned from being just companion animals to do some job or be a comfort to being near human level status. Pets are now more like little brothers or sisters or even children than animals now. At least that's how it is here.

i absolutely agree to that also for me it is only a question of our personal view to them.
by an objective view there is no reaal difference betwen them, for my opinion.
the differences are only human drawn and not biological or ethical.