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Originally Posted by joepythons

So if someone is not a bigtime breeder his/her animals are worth less? Wow :rolleyes:

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No, they just tend to undercut since big breeders names are well known while theirs are relatively unknown, meaning they are less likely to be considered if their prices are the same as the well known big breeders. That's just how the market seems to work, by all means sell them for more, but you probably won't have many people buying from you.

They just shouldn't offer them for much lower than show costs as that puts them into a realm of seeming untrustworthy.

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So if someone is not a bigtime breeder his/her animals are worth less? Wow

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Actually, they said their prices should not be lower then show prices because show prices are already lower then market price.

I personally don't plan to produce more animals than I can hold onto. I'm no big name breeder, and I have no heartache pricing my animals what I think they are worth. I already have a waiting list of people who want Winston babies (my lemon pastel) who are willing to pay a little more than market for your average pastel.

I know what my space limitations are, and I plan to work within them, fwiw.

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Originally Posted by Oxylepy

No, they just tend to undercut since big breeders names are well known while theirs are relatively unknown, meaning they are less likely to be considered if their prices are the same as the well known big breeders. That's just how the market seems to work, by all means sell them for more, but you probably won't have many people buying from you.

They just shouldn't offer them for much lower than show costs as that puts them into a realm of seeming untrustworthy.

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Originally Posted by rjk890

Actually, they said their prices should not be lower then show prices because show prices are already lower then market price.

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Why should they be lower then the bigtime breeders though? If they are well known or not the animals are still the same(or should be) of the same quality.

If Joe Shmoe has his animals priced the same as Ralph Davis, BHB... who's animals are going to sell?

Yeah I'm gunna have to agree with rabernet, you should preplan things before breeding so you know what you will have space for ((average clutch size + standard deviation) x number of clutches = how much room you should have availible before breeding) I mean if you already have people waiting on the snakes then that could remove an amount of space needed, but you should still have room for some of them as people may back out.

As for the Lemon Pastel: They always go more than a pastel, it's the whole line thing.

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Originally Posted by rjk890

If Joe Shmoe has his animals priced the same as Ralph Davis, BHB... who's animals are going to sell?

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Depends on the look of the reptile :gj:.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Why should they be lower then the bigtime breeders though? If they are well known or not the animals are still the same(or should be) of the same quality.

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Bigtime breeders have better quality, i mean if you buy two lemon pastels from BHB and breed them out, thats a BHB super lemon quality, and can go for more. But its also the trust of the breeder in question. If i buy a pastel hatchling whom was from bhb lines but in the first week was not properly attended to, one of the most delicate times of their lives then it could be quite gimped.

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Originally Posted by rjk890

If Joe Shmoe has his animals priced the same as Ralph Davis, BHB... who's animals are going to sell?

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That's my point from before.

They don't HAVE to sell it for less, in fact they can sell it for more, however people are going to want to know why they consider their snakes better or the same as the big name breeders, whose facilities can be easily seen, all the snakes are taken care of at the same quality, which is a standard that is praised by hobbiests (hence them selling so many)

As far as working within space limitations goes:

How about certain breeders with breeding facilities the size of Wal-Mart putting 30,000 eggs on the ground in a single season.
How many seasons that takes to affect the market?

Do you think they are holding back their male Spiders and Pastels?