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Looks like the hunt is on! I like the red light too!

Kevin has been a bit "pissy" when it comes time to handle him. He's rather skilled when it comes to evading me.

I've posted many times how much I like the semi arboreal characteristic of carpets and boas. However, those same characteristics can backfire when you want to get them out of the cage.

Tonight I just didn't want to deal with getting him out so he got his way.

If you look at the photo, you can see him looking at me from under the branch planning his next counter if I attempt to get him out again.

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I will say this guy has beautiful coloring. He was an absolute steal from Nick Mutton. I just wanted a normal, but he had an older animal he decided to part with and his genetic package was a tad more than normal LOL!

Kevin's looking great, Gio! So are the other Morelia on this thread, too -- I'm fairly confident that some sort of Morelia (or something Morelia-adjacent) will make it into this house eventually.

By chance, are any of Kevin's perches easily removable? My longi actually acts the same way sometimes when I try to take him out (though thankfully not so "pissy"), and I've found that he doesn't throw a fuss and is to content to come out when I pick him up on his perch. It's a trick that I picked up from listening to some Corallus/GTP podcasts that seems to work with semi-arboreals. Perhaps it would work with Kevin as well?

...though I imagine it might be quite something removing a snake of his size on his perch! I'm already having visions of me carrying a ~6 foot longi around the house on a tree branch... :P

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Kevin's looking great, Gio! So are the other Morelia on this thread, too -- I'm fairly confident that some sort of Morelia (or something Morelia-adjacent) will make it into this house eventually.

By chance, are any of Kevin's perches easily removable? My longi actually acts the same way sometimes when I try to take him out (though thankfully not so "pissy"), and I've found that he doesn't throw a fuss and is to content to come out when I pick him up on his perch. It's a trick that I picked up from listening to some Corallus/GTP podcasts that seems to work with semi-arboreals. Perhaps it would work with Kevin as well?

...though I imagine it might be quite something removing a snake of his size on his perch! I'm already having visions of me carrying a ~6 foot longi around the house on a tree branch... :P

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Yes,

I can pull perches without much fuss, I just wasn't in the mood yesterday.

BUT,,,,,, I waited him out, and when I went down an hour later guess who was investigating his floor hide? I got him out immediately and we hung out for about 10 minutes.

He's a great display animal so I don't mind the perching constantly. He's probably more arboreal than the retic was here. And that retic was by far the most arboreal snake I've had.

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No need for morph projects when you have something that looks that good!

What a beauty!

Kevin ate and of course dragged his food through a freshly changed out water bowl to irritate me.
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A bit later I finally caught him stretched out a bit.
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I'm very happy with this fella!

Haha! The Murphy’s law of snake keeping. “When are your snakes the absolute filthiest? Right after cleaning them...”

I’m thinking of doing a full deep clean on all enclosures this evening. Hopefully not ~too much mess afterwards, as no one aside from the Royal Python has eaten since November 1st.


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Look at who finally realized the larger cage has places to climb and perch!

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I was tempted to move the boa constrictor into this unit as the coastal just didn't seem overly interested in the extra space, let alone the perches.

Jewel is a click or two longer than 8 feet and I figured she would take to the cage right away.

As it turned out, she likes it but it took some time.

6.5 weeks since last feeding and temp cycling has the room hitting 72-73° at night this week with very low, if any hot spots provided. Cooler climate southern locality coastal still out hunting every night. God I love carpet pythons.
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I'm digging the red light shots.

This one is very intense.

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Oh she is beautiful!

Might not look Morelia related, but all three of my coastal carpets contributed tinsel to my holiday decorating efforts this year.
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Very nice!

Congrats!

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Well done, sir,,,, well done.

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I don't think I'll ever get tired of watching snakes stalk their prey. :snake:

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I don't think I'll ever get tired of watching snakes stalk their prey. :snake:

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Me either. Can’t wait until all of my Morelia are big enough for 4’ cages with sky hides, perches, shelves, the whole nine yards


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Me either. Can’t wait until all of my Morelia are big enough for 4’ cages with sky hides, perches, shelves, the whole nine yards

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Maybe that time could be sooner that you think. ;) Isn't one of you female carpets ~3.5' now? If you plan on adding all the hide and perching options you mentioned above, I'd imagine she'd be pretty happy in a 4' cage at that size. It may actually be good to "test run" your plans for your 4' cages with one animal before outfitting the rest of your cages. I know I'm glad it ended up working out that way here!

...all this Morelia talk has had me dust off my plans for bringing one home this season. If the financial house is in order after the next round of Life Stuff and certain individuals are still on the market... maybe.

Oh, who am I kidding, probably. :rolleyes:

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Maybe that time could be sooner that you think. ;) Isn't one of you female carpets ~3.5' now? If you plan on adding all the hide and perching options you mentioned above, I'd imagine she'd be pretty happy in a 4' cage at that size. It may actually be good to "test run" your plans for your 4' cages with one animal before outfitting the rest of your cages. I know I'm glad it ended up working out that way here!

...all this Morelia talk has had me dust off my plans for bringing one home this season. If the financial house is in order after the next round of Life Stuff and certain individuals are still on the market... maybe.

Oh, who am I kidding, probably. :rolleyes:

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Only two real reasons I haven’t put them in bigger enclosures yet.
1. My big 4x30x24 enclosures have rather large circular vent holes that my females could probably jam their heads through with determination.
2. Heat transfer from the panels in those cages heat the floor of the cage above it pretty warm. I could move the rack from that stack to my 4’ stack and center the 6’ cage above the collective 8’ cage below but I think I’ll save the effort for when I have the new cages set up.

Also just not a real big fan of hunting through a giant cage floor for tiny poops. Smaller enclosures makes daily maintenance much easier for me and they honestly still have plenty of space. The Brisbane female will definitely be the next for an upgrade. My rockhampton female still fits in an RBI small hide though.

I say jump on whatever Morelia you’ve got your eye on, good looking critters don’t hang around long. Notice that outstanding WOW line female from Mike Curtin isn’t listed anymore. Wonder who may have snatched her up... [emoji57]


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Only two real reasons I haven’t put them in bigger enclosures yet.
1. My big 4x30x24 enclosures have rather large circular vent holes that my females could probably jam their heads through with determination.
2. Heat transfer from the panels in those cages heat the floor of the cage above it pretty warm. I could move the rack from that stack to my 4’ stack and center the 6’ cage above the collective 8’ cage below but I think I’ll save the effort for when I have the new cages set up.

Also just not a real big fan of hunting through a giant cage floor for tiny poops. Smaller enclosures makes daily maintenance much easier for me and they honestly still have plenty of space. The Brisbane female will definitely be the next for an upgrade. My rockhampton female still fits in an RBI small hide though.

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Valid points, particularly on the vent and heat transfer fronts. Do the cages you've ordered have some sort of spacer bar/stacking kit you could order if heat transfer becomes a real issue? I've seen more and more cage makers make and recommend them for stacks, to the point they suggest you don't stack without them.

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Oh? Are we going to be seeing a new update thread here soon? :D Not surprised she was snapped up so quick. She is a very pretty, and apparently quite "outgoing"!

Now that I've put some serious thought back into it (and spent far too much time window shopping), I'm back on the Papuan train. No matter how many Morelia I look at, I always come back to them for multiple reasons. I think that's a sign of what the best choice would be. It certainly helps that there are a few high-yellow Papuans out there, a that quite a few individuals who have caught my eye... ;)

Tangentially, I'm thinking it would be better order a new cage for the carpet instead of upgrading Kuzco early and giving the newbie the 20L. A cage would just be much more stable, and maintaining humidity wouldn't be as much of a pain. I've been seriously investigating total acquisition costs (which also include heating, UV, and a new Herpstat) and cage lead times the past few days. It all adds up to quite a bit. My course of action would be to get (read: pay for) all of the new housing first and then go for the snake. If one of the individuals I've been eyeing is still there, maybe it was just meant to be! :D If not... well, a nice housing set up could always be saved and used for the next snake to catch my eye. Because there's always at least one snake like that out there, and next season is just around the corner! :P

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Valid points, particularly on the vent and heat transfer fronts. Do the cages you've ordered have some sort of spacer bar/stacking kit you could order if heat transfer becomes a real issue? I've seen more and more cage makers make and recommend them for stacks, to the point they suggest you don't stack without them.



Oh? Are we going to be seeing a new update thread here soon? :D Not surprised she was snapped up so quick. She is a very pretty, and apparently quite "outgoing"!

Now that I've put some serious thought back into it (and spent far too much time window shopping), I'm back on the Papuan train. No matter how many Morelia I look at, I always come back to them for multiple reasons. I think that's a sign of what the best choice would be. It certainly helps that there are a few high-yellow Papuans out there, a that quite a few individuals who have caught my eye... ;)

Tangentially, I'm thinking it would be better order a new cage for the carpet instead of upgrading Kuzco early and giving the newbie the 20L. A cage would just be much more stable, and maintaining humidity wouldn't be as much of a pain. I've been seriously investigating total acquisition costs (which also include heating, UV, and a new Herpstat) and cage lead times the past few days. It all adds up to quite a bit. My course of action would be to get (read: pay for) all of the new housing first and then go for the snake. If one of the individuals I've been eyeing is still there, maybe it was just meant to be! :D If not... well, a nice housing set up could always be saved and used for the next snake to catch my eye. Because there's always at least one snake like that out there, and next season is just around the corner! :P

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No spacers for the cages on order, but the plan is to use the transferred heat from lower enclosures to provide some belly heat in the enclosures above. I heat the whole room and use the panels as supplemental heat during the day with programmed drops at night, so the heat transfer shouldn’t be much if any issue and will likely minimize the amount of power used by panels in cages higher in the stack.

I could do that all right now with the current arrangement actually, I just don’t feel like dealing with the heat tape on the bottom of my 6’ divided enclosure and moving my rack and having to shuffle thermostats around. At current sizes and growth rates I really don’t even need the three cages I ordered but I’d rather them be here and ready than need them and have to wait 2-3-7 months. Honestly might not even build them up right away.

And yes, once temps are in good order expect a bright yellow and jet black progression thread hah! Hope to see some West Papuan goodness on your end sooner than later too! Are you referring to Nick’s 2020 hatchlings? Eric’s? With unlimited space, time, and resources I’d have at least one of every carpet species if not a pair.

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And yes, once temps are in good order expect a bright yellow and jet black progression thread hah! Hope to see some West Papuan goodness on your end sooner than later too! Are you referring to Nick’s 2020 hatchlings? Eric’s? With unlimited space, time, and resources I’d have at least one of every carpet species if not a pair.

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Wooo! You have fun with that little fireball, mate! :gj: In all honesty, the main reason her brother's out of the running over here is the locked-and-loaded vibe he gives off in his pictures. I don't mind a little fire in my snakes, but that looks like too much for me, thank you!

Yeah, I'm hoping things work out this time! How fast things work out comes down to the shipping times for various things, and that's always up in the air given the pandemic. As for whose Papuans I'm looking at... well, I have to leave some element of surprise. :devilish: I'll leave y'all to speculate.

On the topic of dream Morelia: if size wasn't an issue, my preference would actually be diamond -> bredli -> Papuan -> Darwin/coastal/jungle. The ecological adaptation and evolutionary history of diamonds and bredli fascinate me, but they really run the risk of outgrowing me and becoming too much snake to manage, particularly as I grow older. The evolutionary history of Papuans is also interesting (ie. Australian-not-Australian carpets cut off from the rest of the carpet lineage by the flooding of the Torres Strait), so coupled with their more manageable size, they're first up on the list.

You da man Crook! Can’t wait to see your new girl!! MM4L

Hey all. Good to see this thread still going strong.

I don't know if I'll be back on the forum beyond today, but feel free to PM me, I'll check my inbox here and there.

Hope you and your crews are all well. Everyone is doing VERY well here.

Fernie is already pushing 4 feet and looking better all the time. The bulldog head is filling in nicely.

Cornell is growing a bit slower but is 3ft and change and filling out well. He gets brighter and brighter with every shed. His head is unreal, his blacks really pop and the contrast with the yellow is awesome.

Anyway. Hope you're all well.

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BTW Toad.

That Bredli is looking SWEEEEET!

Glad I checked this post.

Hope Craiga comes back.

That dude hooked me up with a nice V-Neck Mafia T!!

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BTW Toad.

That Bredli is looking SWEEEEET!

Glad I checked this post.

Hope Craiga comes back.

That dude hooked me up with a nice V-Neck Mafia T!!

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Thanks Gio!
Wish she acted as "sweet" as she looked! She was actually very calm compared to usual during those photos. She's finally starting to calm down with age.

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Beautiful even in shed.

My coastal is such a tool LOL!

I'll update everybody about my large but silly eating coastal at a later date.

Thanks for the rocking T Craiga!

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Thanks Gio!
Wish she acted as "sweet" as she looked! She was actually very calm compared to usual during those photos. She's finally starting to calm down with age.

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My guy, Bredli, is also not the most friendly. His gig is cage defensiveness. Once he's out he's fine but getting him out can be semi difficult. The good news is I have a pair of gloves left over from a very nasty retic that I can slip on if needed. I don't need them but they are available.

I think your Bredli is a bit larger and my fella is a 2017. He'll be 4 years old this September.

He's growing a lot lately and is getting big.

I really like the look both of your animals.

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My guy, Bredli, is also not the most friendly. His gig is cage defensiveness. Once he's out he's fine but getting him out can be semi difficult. The good news is I have a pair of gloves left over from a very nasty retic that I can slip on if needed. I don't need them but they are available.

I think your Bredli is a bit larger and my fella is a 2017. He'll be 4 years old this September.

He's growing a lot lately and is getting big.

I really like the look both of your animals.

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That's exactly what both of mine do. Freak out while on the tub and dare you to touch them but when you get them out they start to calm down. I want to stay she'll be 3 this year. I'm not exactly sure I got her from a friend when she was a juvenile a couple years ago

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That's exactly what both of mine do. Freak out while on the tub and dare you to touch them but when you get them out they start to calm down. I want to stay she'll be 3 this year. I'm not exactly sure I got her from a friend when she was a juvenile a couple years ago

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Well, you scored.

She is beautiful and the longer I have a Bredli (still not a year) the more I totally dig them.

They are almost a maintenance free animal. Clean water, food with some spot cleaning goes a long, long way with this species.

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Well, you scored.

She is beautiful and the longer I have a Bredli (still not a year) the more I totally dig them.

They are almost a maintenance free animal. Clean water, food with some spot cleaning goes a long, long way with this species.

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Y’all are gonna get me in trouble talking about Bredli like this... Not adding one anytime soon, but I really want to now and I’m already picking up another animal tomorrow. Fwiw, all of my coasties are super easy keeps as well. I’ve heard Casey Cannon mention that Brisbanes can be kept exactly like Bredli and based on the reports I’ve heard from you guys I’m inclined to agree. Mellow, always eat, low maintenance, beautiful, hard to beat!

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Y’all are gonna get me in trouble talking about Bredli like this... Not adding one anytime soon, but I really want to now and I’m already picking up another animal tomorrow. Fwiw, all of my coasties are super easy keeps as well. I’ve heard Casey Cannon mention that Brisbanes can be kept exactly like Bredli and based on the reports I’ve heard from you guys I’m inclined to agree. Mellow, always eat, low maintenance, beautiful, hard to beat!

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Carpets in general are so damn hardy!

Only the diamonds can be difficult to maintain for folks that don't study the species they are going to keep. The diamonds do require a little extra but the others,,,,, easy as pie.

Carpets,,,, nuff said!

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Carpets in general are so damn hardy!

Only the diamonds can be difficult to maintain for folks that don't study the species they are going to keep. The diamonds do require a little extra but the others,,,,, easy as pie.

Carpets,,,, nuff said!

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I’ll make a thread at some point. Got some catching up to do at work before then.

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WoW! That girl is on 🔥🔥 Crook!

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Thank you, brother! She’s incredible and only 7 months old so still a good bit of color to develop. And yep, from WoW line jungles and some VPI in her background too. There are undocumented snakes in both the sire and dam’s lineage so not a guaranteed pure jungle but I don’t have any immediate breeding plans. Just wanted a smoking hot jet black and neon yellow carpet and she fits the bill! I’ll post all sorts of stuff in her thread when I get it started. Have pics of both parents and all 4 grandparents


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Woohoo! I'm glad your girl made it home safe and sound. Looking forward to seeing her progress!

It'll be another week before my little one comes home - this week just didn't work out. Next week is looking good, though, so hopefully y'all will get to meet them then! The anticipation will no doubt drive me crazy, but more time to dial in their new tub isn't unwelcome.

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That's probably one of the most casual perch-stalk's I've seen! :rofl: Nary a trace of an S-bend in the neck -- just a chill hammocking and a focus on the floor. Glad to see she's settling in well. :gj:

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That's probably one of the most casual perch-stalk's I've seen! :rofl: Nary a trace of an S-bend in the neck -- just a chill hammocking and a focus on the floor. Glad to see she's settling in well. :gj:

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Oh, she went right into locked and loaded S-curve as soon as I started thawing her rat hah! This was just a better overall picture of her. Definitely settling in well. Been up on her perches all but one or two nights so far


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Is that the MPR calendar by chance Crook? Very nice JCP right? Your girl is gonna be even nicer!!

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Is that the MPR calendar by chance Crook? Very nice JCP right? Your girl is gonna be even nicer!!

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MPR calendar for sure! And thanks, brother! I may get the new kid out for her first short handling sesh tonight. Already gotten two meals down with no hesitation and she’s out on the perches currently. Quick pic of her the other night in very dim light
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Best representation of her colors I can get and still does no justice. Indirect natural light during the last hour of daylight.
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