Python Reticulatus Wallace Progression!

Love the way he looks. What genes does he have. I see the tiger I think? Either way love his looks for sure. Reminds me of Rainbow.

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Love the way he looks. What genes does he have. I see the tiger I think? Either way love his looks for sure. Reminds me of Rainbow.

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Thank you. I like your retic as well.

My fella is this:
http://i.imgur.com/c4KtPpc.jpg


I'm not sure why, but the tiger pattern is something found attractive from day one. Nothing fancy, or really "morphish" about it, just love it is all.

http://i.imgur.com/F4DoYSP.jpg

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Originally Posted by Gio

Thank you. I like your retic as well.

My fella is this:
http://i.imgur.com/c4KtPpc.jpg


I'm not sure why, but the tiger pattern is something found attractive from day one. Nothing fancy, or really "morphish" about it, just love it is all.

http://i.imgur.com/F4DoYSP.jpg

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Looks awesome. I feel the same way, I love the way they look. I've also heard they grow larger than other morphs and have better temperaments. Perfect.

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Originally Posted by Valyrian

Looks awesome. I feel the same way, I love the way they look. I've also heard they grow larger than other morphs and have better temperaments. Perfect.

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I’m hoping he stays 9’feet or under.
But that’s going to play out how it does.

I agree the Tiger gene seems to mellow them some.

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Originally Posted by Gio

I’m hoping he stays 9’feet or under.
But that’s going to play out how it does.

I agree the Tiger gene seems to mellow them some.

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Mine is a girl. She will get longer than 9 feet for sure. She was 7 feet when I got her a week and half ago. Her hide is starting to look a little snug. She was lifting it up after eating last night. 2 chicks and 1 medium rat. Chose a smaller rat because of giving her the chicks.

I hope Rainbow stays a good girl. She is so mellow so far.

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Mine is a girl. She will get longer than 9 feet for sure. She was 7 feet when I got her a week and half ago. Her hide is starting to look a little snug. She was lifting it up after eating last night. 2 chicks and 1 medium rat. Chose a smaller rat because of giving her the chicks.

I hope Rainbow stays a good girl. She is so mellow so far.

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I think she'll be fine.

Usually it's the males that get a little edgy when they get to breeding age, however I think it is more seasonal than constant.

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Originally Posted by Gio

I think she'll be fine.

Usually it's the males that get a little edgy when they get to breeding age, however I think it is more seasonal than constant.

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I think you are correct.

We both will find out with time for sure.

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Mine is a girl. She will get longer than 9 feet for sure. She was 7 feet when I got her a week and half ago. Her hide is starting to look a little snug. She was lifting it up after eating last night. 2 chicks and 1 medium rat. Chose a smaller rat because of giving her the chicks.

I hope Rainbow stays a good girl. She is so mellow so far.

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Isnt yours a full blood mainland though? Wallace is SD/dwarf with a lower percentage on mainland.

And Wallace will probably stay under 9 feet. Caesar is higher percent mainland and just from watching him in the cage, i would guess he is about 8 feet and he has to eat every 10 days or so or else he goes ballistic lol.

Man, Wallace is looking beautiful! I just love tigers. Very high on my wishlist, then I got bit by the scrub bug. Now I guess I’ll have to wait :rolleyes: I can live vicariously through this progression for now!

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Isnt yours a full blood mainland though? Wallace is SD/dwarf with a lower percentage on mainland.

And Wallace will probably stay under 9 feet. Caesar is higher percent mainland and just from watching him in the cage, i would guess he is about 8 feet and he has to eat every 10 days or so or else he goes ballistic lol.

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Sauzo is correct. Only small percentage mainland for Wallace. If you a full mainland female there will be some size.

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Originally Posted by Gio

Sauzo is correct. Only small percentage mainland for Wallace. If you a full mainland female there will be some size.

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Yes she is a mainland. 2 years old and only 7 feet and 5lbs though.

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Yes she is a mainland. 2 years old and only 7 feet and 5lbs though.

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Wow that is tiny!! Caesar is 37.5% SD, 31.5% dwarf male white albino tiger het snow and he about 8 feet, weighs a lot more than 5 lbs and turns 2 years old this May.

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Wow that is tiny!! Caesar is 37.5% SD, 31.5% dwarf male white albino tiger het snow and he about 8 feet, weighs a lot more than 5 lbs and turns 2 years old this May.

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I think she was incredibly underfed

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

I think she was incredibly underfed

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That is an understatement if she is really 2 years old and a pure mainland. That's even smaller than Jacob's pure kalatoa girl, Phyllis.

Wallace uses the obstacles and decor in his cage and shows off his semi arboreal behavior almost every night.

I sat and watched him for a while yesterday morning and snapped a few pictures.

He pulled some color off of his head during his last shed as you can see between the eyes. Hopefully in the next shed or two that will self remedy.

http://i.imgur.com/XexlZW2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kfhzDkF.jpg

Thanks for looking.
http://i.imgur.com/UqxkOLn.jpg

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Wow! What a beautiful snake!

Nice photos. Love how they look and are so active.

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Originally Posted by Gio

I'm not sure why, but the tiger pattern is something found attractive from day one. Nothing fancy, or really "morphish" about it, just love it is all.

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What I find interesting is for me how much I love the tiger pattern and also love the GC gene which almost wipes out most of the pattern all together.

Another dinner date with quail.

http://i.imgur.com/aKVOfEL.jpg


He actually got this one F/T by the head when I offered which made the eating process relatively quick.
http://i.imgur.com/ocoznnr.jpg

Thanks for looking.

http://i.imgur.com/3BlBIjg.jpg

Such a gorgeous noodle only getting better with age glad he enjoyed his dinner thank you for sharing :D

He will be 2 years old in 16 days.

Anybody ever wonder what it is like to handle a 7 foot retic?

It isn't as difficult as some may think.

http://i.imgur.com/VR5ye3K.jpg

Excuse his patchy coloring between the eyes. It is improving after some stuck shed a while back.

Note, this is a one hand job. At least it was last night. He can get quite busy however last night was perfect.
http://i.imgur.com/gn7AdnQ.jpg

Here are some shots for perspective. You can see he curls up and when he does, he doesn't dwarf my hand.
http://i.imgur.com/UMkivdH.jpg

He's fed well and has become very interactive with me.

I find it hard to believe that I can handle him like this, after seeing how big he looks in his cage.

However I bought a male SD X Dwarf for this very reason.

Another 2 - 2.5 feet of length and a bit more girth will not be an issue for me when handling with this animal.

http://i.imgur.com/55eMAxr.jpg

He is looking great! Rainbow is a lot more active for the first 15 min then she poops and pees and calms down and hugs me for warmth.

He's a gorgeous animal Gio. :)

Thanks for the kind words.

Funny, I just had my boa out today and he made Wallace feel like a paper weight.

The boa constrictor is NOT a one hander LOL!

Wish Caesar would curl up like that haha. My god, he is like a 10 hander when you get him out. Dude is like 'OMG, FRRREEEDDDOOMMMM' and he climbs all over me like a jungle gym and gets all grabby when i walk past stuff or decides he wants to walk himself and goes to the floor lol.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Wish Caesar would curl up like that haha. My god, he is like a 10 hander when you get him out. Dude is like 'OMG, FRRREEEDDDOOMMMM' and he climbs all over me like a jungle gym and gets all grabby when i walk past stuff or decides he wants to walk himself and goes to the floor lol.

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HA!

I do have many days like that, but even still,,,,, the boa is MUCH more massive even if half a foot, or a foot shorter.

The day he arrived here at almost 4 months old.

http://i.imgur.com/lzSWpNP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Al6ehuK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EeNl8QG.jpg


And his most recent pictures.

http://i.imgur.com/VR5ye3K.jpg


His head has really grown.
http://i.imgur.com/Nmvio18.jpg


Enjoy your day and being king of the constrictors!

http://i.imgur.com/XexlZW2.jpg

He looks so much like Rainbow. I just love him. He looks so happy also.

hApPiE bUrPhDaEy, WaLlAcE!


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Such an attractive noodle, love his pattern and his beautiful face thank you so much for sharing :D

I fed him the day before his birthday. I opened his cage last night and he had a go at me.

Good thing I have no complacency with him or I’d have taken a bite.

The retic feeding reesponse lasts a couple of days.

No joke, it’s real and they have a long strike range.

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Originally Posted by Gio

I fed him the day before his birthday. I opened his cage last night and he had a go at me.

Good thing I have no complacency with him or I’d have taken a bite.

The retic feeding reesponse lasts a couple of days.

No joke, it’s real and they have a long strike range.

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Yep!!
Phyllis and Gerald are both on high alert for a good two days after feeding. Had a long missed lunge from Gerald a couple weeks ago. Came a good 2’ out of the cage. Gloriousness the 40” feeding tongs are! Hahah


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Haha, Caesar is usually in a food coma for a couple days after eating. Good thing i learned is he can go about 2 weeks now without food and doesnt push like before. He will wreck stuff though but if i open the door and give him some furious petting, he clams down and usually will just lay there with his head on the litter dam. Although a few times he will wait until he thinks i am not watching and try and slide down the stack to the floor haha.

Regardless of the food coma or not, i usually never mess with Caesar or any of the snakes for at least 2-3 days after eating. And i agree, thank god for 40+ inch feeding tongs haha.

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Originally Posted by jmcrook

Yep!!
Phyllis and Gerald are both on high alert for a good two days after feeding. Had a long missed lunge from Gerald a couple weeks ago. Came a good 2’ out of the cage. Gloriousness the 40” feeding tongs are! Hahah


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Yes,,
Such a different feeding experience.

These retics actually make it difficult. They know when it’s time 30 minutes before it’s time.

My other snakes are certainly aware but they let me open the cage. I have to trick Wallace with one door and quickly open another to get the tongs in with the food.

There’s no wiggling or taunting. The door opens and WHAMMO.

Hahaha exactly. I do that with all my snakes except the little ones. Vicky and Rosey both have at times shot out the door. Usually it is Vicky. She is kind of psycho around food.

I've had Rango, Louie and Gina all shoot out at least once too but like i said, they are too small right now to reach out far enough to get me as i stand to the side of the opening door lol.

And yup, there is no need to wiggle anything. I just slap the food on Caesars butt and he spins around and slams it.

I do like the predictability.

My boa is like a croc or gator. He is different than Wallace. He will just sit there usually perched. Sometimes he hits right away. Other times he waits and just when I think he’s not interested or paying attention he hits.

I purchased Wallace from Kris at Vital in September of 2016, Sauzo got his boy, Caesar just a bit after I received Wallace.

I looked on the website and was surprised to see this. Not only today but yesterday and prior to the message I noticed the stock for sale had been dwindling to just larger breeder snakes.

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I'm not a Facebook member but was able to look on my wife's account and noticed they have no new postings except for a few monitors that were posted for sale in April of this year.

Does anybody know if they are out of the reptile business?

I know Kris was working on a bison farm right when I was purchasing Wallace, and I'm curious if that is what he's doing full time now.

I'm in interested to know if anybody has ordered from Vital or had contact with them recently.

They were a reputable retic outfit and I'd be sad to see them out of the bizz.

Yeah i think he quit snakes for a while or possibly for good. I talked to him about a SD ultra but he told me he was done with snakes for now and is concentrating his efforts on his bison ranch.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Yeah i think he quit snakes for a while or possibly for good. I talked to him about a SD ultra but he told me he was done with snakes for now and is concentrating his efforts on his bison ranch.

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Hmmm,

Well that's too bad but I see it happen a lot with breeders and keepers alike.

There are not many long time breeders in the retic world.

Depending on the locale, they get large to very large, not many keepers have them for long, long periods either.

Kris did an exceptional job with the species and I'm happy to have purchased from him.

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Originally Posted by Gio

Hmmm,

Well that's too bad but I see it happen a lot with breeders and keepers alike.

There are not many long time breeders in the retic world.

Depending on the locale, they get large to very large, not many keepers have them for long, long periods either.

Kris did an exceptional job with the species and I'm happy to have purchased from him.

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I'm actually surprised to tell you the truth. While retics are large, they require no where near the space large monitors do. And i think Kris was breeding water monitors. They get big. I had a Nile Monitor about 30 years ago which i got as a hatchling from a local breeder. He was the most laid back lizard i have seen except when around one particular buddy of mine which he REALLY hated and took a shot at him with his tail. He was about 5 feet at the time and lucky for my buddy, he was quick. The tail put a nice dent/break in the sheet rock wall lol. I ended up having to re home him as he grew beyond my financial abilities being i was an 18 year old kid living on his own in an apartment along with a few geckos, pacman frog and a BP lol. I miss him though and still think about him. He was hands down my favorite pet especially since i got him as a little tiny hatchling who would chase crickets around the cage lol.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

I'm actually surprised to tell you the truth. While retics are large, they require no where near the space large monitors do. And i think Kris was breeding water monitors. They get big. I had a Nile Monitor about 30 years ago which i got as a hatchling from a local breeder. He was the most laid back lizard i have seen except when around one particular buddy of mine which he REALLY hated and took a shot at him with his tail. He was about 5 feet at the time and lucky for my buddy, he was quick. The tail put a nice dent/break in the sheet rock wall lol. I ended up having to re home him as he grew beyond my financial abilities being i was an 18 year old kid living on his own in an apartment along with a few geckos, pacman frog and a BP lol. I miss him though and still think about him. He was hands down my favorite pet especially since i got him as a little tiny hatchling who would chase crickets around the cage lol.

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100% agree and I think he's selling the last of the monitors as well.

I am interested in the monitors, I actually love them but I'm not able to keep them. Too much work, which is why snakes are perfect for my situation.

I'm a bit bummed that the Vital Webpage is down completely. I liked the care sheets and descriptions that were listed there for various types of retic SD and dwarf populations.

Maybe the hobby, or at least the breeding part of it, ran its course.

Even into adulthood, the arboreal habits of retics don't seem to disappear.

Wallace has been right here for 3.5 days.

http://i.imgur.com/0X5uoYv.jpg

When I move about the room, I'll see his head drop down for a potential ambush.

He seems to be very comfortable using his perches, which is nice because I love watching him do his thing.

Good stuff!

He fed from the perches tonight and was insane. Never came down, until much later tonight.

I'm having some issues transferring pictures so unfortunately I don't have anything to show.

But our long time in the canopy came to an end after feeding today.

Some beautiful, NEW, post shed pictures.

Wallace is 2 years and a month old now. 7.5 to 8.5 feet long and filling out.

He's looking like the tiger I've always wanted.

https://i.imgur.com/2lGDbis.jpg

The head and neck tie in area is looking full and solid.

https://i.imgur.com/2FTTDZv.jpg

Interesting item to look at here: A few new, black markings on his head. I like them.
https://i.imgur.com/EJhqAH0.jpg

Closer and some tongue.
https://i.imgur.com/AiU748Z.jpg


Handsome boy!
https://i.imgur.com/DfiDUW2.jpg

God Damn it... Now I definitely have to get one of these!

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God Damn it... Now I definitely have to get one of these!

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You might as well. Got the Burm already,,,,, Time to round out the large Asian python quest!

That’s one stunning snake gio ,his markings are incredible

You should of gone up Doncaster Sunday Valyrian there was loads of really cool retics,like the ones I posted pics of in off topic cafe, peter rice had some incredible retics


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That’s one stunning snake gio ,his markings are incredible

You should of gone up Doncaster Sunday Valyrian there was loads of really cool retics,like the ones I posted pics of in off topic cafe, peter rice had some incredible retics


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I've been thinking about going to the next one. Only one thing makes me question going.

This forum is cool but a lot of the reptile community seem to be idiots to each other online. Are there a lot of those kinds of people at the show or are most of them ok?

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No they all fine mate, not many people speak to each other really , there’s so much to see at the racecourse inside show ground is huge ,everyone’s too busy trying to look at all the stalls and take it all in ,there’s loads of stalls with equipment and animals ,not just snakes there
Obviously the breeders will speak to you if you have any questions


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Originally Posted by Valyrian

I've been thinking about going to the next one. Only one thing makes me question going.

This forum is cool but a lot of the reptile community seem to be idiots to each other online. Are there a lot of those kinds of people at the show or are most of them ok?

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That depends on the Forum and the moderators.

I have found most forum conversation friendly.

Facebook, which I don’t have is another story.
Also if you approach things from a pet owner standpoint you are more likely to get help. Coming in and talking like a breeder seems to ruffle the delicate feathers of some. At least I have observed it watching some of the dynamics over time.

You would enjoy an expo.