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  • 01-30-2017, 12:43 AM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Tigerhawk,
    Not sure where stearns got theirs but mine is from Daniel Solis at reptile avenue, sauzo and gio got theirs from vital exotics. I know of a guy that has some SD projects most of the time in various percentages. Shoot me a message if you have an idea what you're looking for and can't find it. No promise that I know where to find what you're interested in, but two pairs of eyes and ears can cover more ground than one. :) I also have a buddy that's hopefully going to have breeding pairs of pure super dwarfs by next season. He's got adult females already and a yearling male on the way soon hopefully


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  • 01-30-2017, 02:48 AM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RamMac View Post
    Beautiful! I love platinum retics.

    It's a good looking snake for sure! Got any updated pics on your Tiger SD RamMac? His baby pics looked like he was going to grow up to be a pretty awesome critter
  • 01-30-2017, 04:05 AM
    Sauzo
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    It's a good looking snake for sure! Got any updated pics on your Tiger SD RamMac? His baby pics looked like he was going to grow up to be a pretty awesome critter

    I can post pics of Vicky lounging in Roseys cage with Rosey if you want Jmcrook!! I had both their cages open since they like to hang out with just their faces sitting on the litter dam. Well I hoped on the computer to do some stuff and when I went to go see what was up, I caught Vicky sitting in Roseys cage on the shelf and Rosey was sitting in her spot on the heater with her face resting on the litter dam lol. I swear the snakes play music cages all the time. I caught Dottie in Vickys cage once and Vicky in Roseys cage and Rosey sitting in her cage with her face staring at the floor lol. Crazy snakes.

    But in all seriousness, what happened to RamMacs retic? I've posted the bejebus out of Caesar. I think people are tired of seeing him lol. And until they make SD pieds, I don't see myself getting a full size retic as atm I am on the edge with getting the Pucallpa BCC and haven't even mentioned a female sharp snow girlfriend for Rango.....we'll cross that bridge when needed lol.
  • 01-30-2017, 05:14 PM
    Stearns84
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tigerhawk View Post
    He looks great. Please keep the pictures comming. I'm enjoying the conversation . Finally who did you buy him from? I'm thinking about getting one myself.

    I got Gene from a friend who had a few to many snakes. I have a friend on FB that breeds 100% SD, Brian Cimala.
  • 01-30-2017, 10:49 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
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    Well I think it's safe to say that Phyllis likes her new bowl/swimming pool haha. She's been in there since I got home today and hasn't left yet.


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  • 01-30-2017, 10:53 PM
    Sauzo
    Lol wtf!! I buy all my snakes the fancy camo bowls and none of them sit in them!! The only snakes who likes water is Luna who loves to sit in her bowl.
  • 01-31-2017, 07:07 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    [QU OTE=o.r hill;2493903]The ones in that package looked teeny. Maybe two per oven stuffer chicken leg full of meat. I share your concern that feeding featureless (and gutless) food items may shortchange them. I alternate F/T rats and poultry. I get the impression that the rats keep them fuller feeling longer. Still I like having the alternative.

    ...

    Maybe for an occasional change !?

    It's something that crossed my mind as I our local Tesco we can get a whole uncooked chicken for a quid / dollar LESS than the local snake shop charges me for a large rat but it just seems such a waste giving a whole chicken to a snake !?[/QUOTE]

    I'm in the doghouse again .. I bought a large frozen rat and a jumbo frozen rat from the snake store then the wife came home with two chickens from Tesco for £5 .99 !!
  • 02-11-2017, 06:08 PM
    jmcrook
    Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    So today may possibly be Phyllis's 1st birthday. I know her clutch started pipping a year ago today and they were all out of the eggs by feb 14th. In celebration she shed the day before so as to be wearing her best dress haha!
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a2f8a601de.jpg
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...972a0cf156.jpg
    Getting quite large and muscular. Hadn't had her out in about a week due to her shed cycle and she also missed a meal because of shed. So yesterday when I went to get her out and clean up her skin she attacked a roll of paper towels that I was using as a shield haha. Bit and constricted a full roll. Very quickly dropped it and uncoiled, I got a hook and a hand under her and she was totally chill. What a freak lol
    Thawing her a medium rat right now and she'll probably get Geoffrey's small rat too because he is still fasting. Lost almost no weight but still not eating. She's been watching the "food door" like this for probably 3 hours hah
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1d5c7c64c1.jpg



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  • 02-11-2017, 06:24 PM
    ShaneSilva
    She's looking good! Regret not picking up that kalatoa when I had the chance
  • 02-11-2017, 06:51 PM
    Sauzo
    She's getting huge and looks good. She's on medium rats? Dang, now I feel like Caesar is a fatty being on large rats. Mediums do nothing for him now :(
  • 02-11-2017, 06:57 PM
    jmcrook
    Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    She's getting huge and looks good. She's on medium rats? Dang, now I feel like Caesar is a fatty being on large rats. Mediums do nothing for him now :(

    Thanks man! She crushes a medium no problem and hardly has a lump any more. As we speak she's eating Geoffrey's 75g small after her 110g medium from her water bowl, which she immediately climbed into after her first rat. I think some of her pushing may have been protests for a larger bowl and a larger hide.
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b7f864d2f6.jpg
    She could easily take a large rat but I'm keeping her on a diet for right now so she hopefully doesn't exceed 9-10' before her second birthday. I may move to larger soon but then she's going to 10 day intervals whether she likes it or not. Tough love Phyllis haha


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  • 02-11-2017, 07:11 PM
    Sauzo
    Haha good luck with that. I tried tough love on Caesar and he got 2 scrapes on his chin from it. I've pretty much conceded that Caesar is going to be 10' lol. The large rats are the only thing that keeps him quiet. Anything smaller and he is saying "look at me!!" by smushing his face into the left side, right side, bottom and even the top of the glass door.....yes he even braces himself on the lower dam and smushes his face into the top dam haha.

    But the plus side is he has been completely quiet the past 3 days. He did play under his paper towels though and did look over at me when I was straightening them out this morning but he didn't seem really hungry. I'm actually liking the paper towels for him to tell you the truth. Makes clean up easy as you know, retics piss all the time and funny part is he seems to actually enjoy the paper towels as he can slide around under them and stuff. I'll definitely keep the boas, BP and dumerils on ReptiChips but debating on Caesar.

    Oh and 1 other weird thing is when he was on aspen and ReptiChips, he used his hides a lot. Now on paper towels he doesn't use his hides. He shoves them around but is much happier to just sit out more now.
  • 02-11-2017, 07:39 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    If she starts pushing again I'll just fill the gap in the door track again haha. When she gets a bigger cage I'm gonna see if AP will make an insert so that the bottom door track is flush with the highest point of the litter dam. Then there's nowhere to jam their faces into


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  • 02-26-2017, 10:40 PM
    jmcrook
    Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
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    Hadn't posted Phyllis in a little while. This picture makes her look way small. She's been perfectly content to just hang out on my shoulders for like half an hour. Such a calm animal outside of her cage. She took a shot at the hook and then wildly in the air as I was getting her out but then chill as can be once she's being handled.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ccd6ef9afa.jpg


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  • 02-26-2017, 10:49 PM
    Tigerhawk
    She's just keeping you on your toes.:D
  • 02-26-2017, 10:52 PM
    Sauzo
    Dude!! Phyllis is just a thick as Caesar!! Shoelace my butt lol. Might be the pics but I'd bet she is thicker than Caesar. Caesar is about 1.5" in diameter at his fattest part, maybe 2" tops. Looks good though. Lol wish Caesar sat quiet like that haha. He used to be fairly quiet as a baby. Maybe he now more used to me but that guy never sits still now. That 2nd pic, Phyllis looks like she has a pretty burly head. Looks a lot bigger than Caesar but sometimes pics can distort stuff.

    Lol guess it's reversed now. You got the calm retic and I got the spazz one who always wants move move move!! So maybe females are more laid back than males haha.

    It will be interesting to see if Gerald's temperament changes when he hits breeding age with a female around. I've heard some males get 'crazy' during breeding season. Heck will be interesting to see what all of our males do when breeding age comes.

    And yeah Caesar took a shot at my shadow in the cage when he was hungry haha. Heck even my little worm, Rango took a shot at the cage wall when he saw my finger shadow on it. That little worm is always hungry too. Heck all my snakes always want food except Dottie. Everyone instantly perks up when the doors are open.

    Anyways, Phyllis looks like she's filling out nicely and mellowing out.
  • 02-26-2017, 10:59 PM
    jmcrook
    Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Well I went and jinxed myself. Accidentally bumped her nose just barely right now and she latched on to my forearm like a vice. Finally let go and as I was going put her back in her cage she went towards the bite mark and started to open her mouth on it like she was going to eat my f*****g my arm. Post pics or no? It's already bruising lol


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  • 02-26-2017, 11:38 PM
    Stearns84
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    Well I went and jinxed myself. Accidentally bumped her nose just barely right now and she latched on to my forearm like a vice. Finally let go and as I was going put her back in her cage she went towards the bite mark and started to open her mouth on it like she was going to eat my f*****g my arm. Post pics or no? It's already bruising lol


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    Let's see them!


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  • 02-26-2017, 11:44 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
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    A couple seconds after she let go, still had some crazy strong coils gripping my hands together.
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f205e97fd0.jpg
    After I cleaned it up. All six rows of teeth clearly represented

    Never get too comfortable folks. Show respect and read your animals closely. SHE (stupid handling error) wasn't paying attention to where her head was and spooked her and she responded accordingly. Can't blame her. I'm sure we'll both have our guards up a bit for interactions in the near future


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  • 02-26-2017, 11:48 PM
    Stearns84
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Wow

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  • 02-27-2017, 12:06 AM
    FlynnTheBP
    She is beautiful! Sorry she bit you...it happens sometimes. I love retics and I always wondered about their temperament. Is she usually docile?
  • 02-27-2017, 12:23 AM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FlynnTheBP View Post
    She is beautiful! Sorry she bit you...it happens sometimes. I love retics and I always wondered about their temperament. Is she usually docile?

    Yeah she's usually super chill. Very food oriented and a bit cage defensive sometimes but generally very calm once she's out and about.


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  • 02-27-2017, 03:48 AM
    Sauzo
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...4b44cc191a.jpg
    A couple seconds after she let go, still had some crazy strong coils gripping my hands together.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...f205e97fd0.jpg
    After I cleaned it up. All six rows of teeth clearly represented

    Never get too comfortable folks. Show respect and read your animals closely. SHE (stupid handling error) wasn't paying attention to where her head was and spooked her and she responded accordingly. Can't blame her. I'm sure we'll both have our guards up a bit for interactions in the near future


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    That's epic man. It looks like a tattoo where they forgot to use ink lol. Well dang, I'm the only one left who hasn't been pissed on or now bit lol. Actually I think Cloud hasn't been bit or pissed on either lol. Not sure about Gene.

    That's wild that you booped her snoot and she went ballistic on you lol. I've booped Caesar a ton as he never sits still. Heck I turned around when feeding the snakes next to him and slammed into his head with my arm lol. Felt bad but he wasn't hurt and just backed up a little and looked at me lol.

    That is a pretty big bite lol. And lol, yeah I'm sure both of you are going to be gun shy for a bit. When Caesar opened his mouth and hissed at the snake hook, I kind of got scared every time I reached in to pick him up for a little bit.

    You know why she bit you!!?? Cause you aren't feeding her enough!!!! Lol j/k, my god people don't take this all serious and jump down my throat :P

    Anyways, at least you got the bite out of the way so next time she tags you, you will know what to expect lol.

    Oh and off topic, I still think Phyllis is a lot thicker and bigger than Caesar using your forearm to compare her thick part.

    Oh and I love how after she bit you, she thought about it and was like 'well since I already started this, I might as just finish it' as she decided to sample you again hahaha.
  • 02-27-2017, 05:24 PM
    Tigerhawk
    Yup she's keeping you on your toes. She got you good. Sorry that happened to you.
  • 02-27-2017, 05:38 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Keep snakes for long enough and it's not a question of if, but rather, when you will be bitten. 4th or 5th time in over 20 years but the only time so far that I've had a bite and coil where I was kept wrapped up for a solid minute or two. Definitely wasn't fun but all things considered it wasn't horrible. Just remained calm and waited for her to eventually give up after dunking her under the faucet did nothing. Definitely freaked me out when she casually went back to he bite area as though it were food and started opening her mouth on it again. Might pick up a bottle of cheapo vodka to keep handy for helping induce a bite release for these scenarios in the future if/when they arise.


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  • 02-27-2017, 06:59 PM
    Sauzo
    Wow, didn't even release with water? My BP latched onto my finger like it was a skinny scrawny rat and tried to drag my hand into her hide. I dunked her head with my finger in her water bowl and she released. Never been coiled by anyone though. All my bites were just quick tags except the BP but that was my fault.

    I'm not looking forward to Caesar coiling me lol.

    So whats Gerald up to? He just calmly watching as Phyllis tried to eat you and thought 'dang man!! Not sure if I want her as a girlfriend, she might try to eat me too!!'? :P
  • 02-27-2017, 07:10 PM
    Snoopyslim
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    WOW that must have hurt like a son-of-a-*****!!!

    Sorry that happened but I appreciate your words of wisdom to other owners though. I was bit by my Valentine for the first time awhile ago - my fault - food response bite - she came out of shed and was especially hungry, bit the first thing that came near her face (my finger). I held her tail so she could not wrap...she stayed for about 2 minutes, I was just about to dunk her in water when she went to bite deeper but was able to get my finger out. Needless to say I now feed in tank and she's back to normal. I think I became too comfortable since she has never ever been aggressive and I took that for granted.

    Must have been frightening to have been coiled...lucky she's not full grown. I can't imagine how painful that actually was...I found being bit by a ball more annoying/burning pain but the jaws on a rectic...yikes.

    Safe future handling and thanks for sharing I LOVE reading/looking at rectics...
  • 02-27-2017, 07:19 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
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    Wow, didn't even release with water? My BP latched onto my finger like it was a skinny scrawny rat and tried to drag my hand into her hide. I dunked her head with my finger in her water bowl and she released. Never been coiled by anyone though. All my bites were just quick tags except the BP but that was my fault.

    I'm not looking forward to Caesar coiling me lol.

    So whats Gerald up to? He just calmly watching as Phyllis tried to eat you and thought 'dang man!! Not sure if I want her as a girlfriend, she might try to eat me too!!'? :P

    Hahah! Gerald is in shed right now so he's being a recluse in his warm hide with his jet black eyes in a nice hue of blue ;) can't wait to see what a fresh paint job looks like on him!
    I don't know when/if he's going to be paired with Phyllis. Maybe someday, but Gerald has probably got a couple of dates set up with some older pure SD girls late this year. I'll keep everyone posted on the development of 75% SD platinum retic babies when that happens. My friend that breeds reptiles professionally said about Gerald, "I've got a couple ladies that would love to meet him!" Haha


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  • 02-27-2017, 07:29 PM
    jmcrook
    Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
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    Originally Posted by Snoopyslim View Post
    WOW that must have hurt like a son-of-a-*****!!!

    Sorry that happened but I appreciate your words of wisdom to other owners though. I was bit by my Valentine for the first time awhile ago - my fault - food response bite - she came out of shed and was especially hungry, bit the first thing that came near her face (my finger). I held her tail so she could not wrap...she stayed for about 2 minutes, I was just about to dunk her in water when she went to bite deeper but was able to get my finger out. Needless to say I now feed in tank and she's back to normal. I think I became too comfortable since she has never ever been aggressive and I took that for granted.

    Must have been frightening to have been coiled...lucky she's not full grown. I can't imagine how painful that actually was...I found being bit by a ball more annoying/burning pain but the jaws on a rectic...yikes.

    Safe future handling and thanks for sharing I LOVE reading/looking at rectics...

    Certainly didn't feel good but in all honesty, not quite as bad as I would have expected. It was mostly how she was pulling back with her head while her teeth were sunk deep into my forearm that caused the most discomfort. You know, how they kind of pull their head in the opposite direction of their coils a lot of the time to latch their teeth in better? That was the part that sucked the most but it was more the initial "oh s***! She's got me!" that made it seem worse in the moment. Once she established that she was hanging on for a min I just kind of accepted it and stayed calm waiting for her to let go. The blood in the pic makes it look way more gnarly than it was. Needless to say I would not be thrilled about this happening when she's 2-3' longer and weighs 2-3x as much.
    Like you said, never be "too comfortable" and even if you are, don't take that for granted. On a long enough timeline everyone gets bit eventually. Par for the course if you're going to be a lifelong snake keeper


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  • 02-27-2017, 07:52 PM
    cletus
    Looks like you got tagged pretty good!
  • 02-27-2017, 10:05 PM
    Snoopyslim
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
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    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    Certainly didn't feel good but in all honesty, not quite as bad as I would have expected. It was mostly how she was pulling back with her head while her teeth were sunk deep into my forearm that caused the most discomfort. You know, how they kind of pull their head in the opposite direction of their coils a lot of the time to latch their teeth in better? That was the part that sucked the most but it was more the initial "oh s***! She's got me!" that made it seem worse in the moment. Once she established that she was hanging on for a min I just kind of accepted it and stayed calm waiting for her to let go. The blood in the pic makes it look way more gnarly than it was. Needless to say I would not be thrilled about this happening when she's 2-3' longer and weighs 2-3x as much.
    Like you said, never be "too comfortable" and even if you are, don't take that for granted. On a long enough timeline everyone gets bit eventually. Par for the course if you're going to be a lifelong snake keeper


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    Yasss! Their teeth are amazing really, like fish hooks! Thats what it felt like to me and the more a prey squirms the deeper they sink in. I totally know what you mean - I had that oh s*** moment but turned suddenly calm - my poor boyfriend was terrified hahaha almost happy to have it happened, wasn't as bad as one would think...kinda neat in a way to experience how their extraordinary teeth work.

    Glad you're both okay!
  • 02-27-2017, 11:01 PM
    Gio
    That's a pretty good one. Had 3 of the 4 here get me.

    I have a bottle of old school Listerene in the snake room.

    I'll get tagged again I'm sure.

    Sounds like you handled it like a pro!!
  • 03-04-2017, 12:03 AM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Phyllis got her first large 260g rat just now and pounded it like it was nobody's business hah! Maybe we can stretch her feedings to every 10 days? We'll see how long this keeps her content.
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  • 03-04-2017, 12:07 AM
    Stearns84
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    Phyllis got her first large 260g rat just now and pounded it like it was nobody's business hah! Maybe we can stretch her feedings to every 10 days? We'll see how long this keeps her content.
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    I really love this picture. With the decor in the enclosure, it's amazing.

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  • 03-04-2017, 12:18 AM
    Sauzo
    Probably. I know since moving Caesar up in size, he is fairly quiet now. I mean he comes out and wanders around but doesn't seem to push much if at all now.

    Oh and kind of off topic, I used serp widget again today for Caesar and from what it says, he is 5.1'. And on another note, I talked to Ali today and added another T8 and stand and she said she could wrap it all up and ship it to me late next week!!! I cant wait. Gonna post some pics of the # T10s next to the 3 T8s. Now I just need to add 3 T25s next to that and I'll have my snake monolith!! Sorry to steal the light for a sec.

    And retics can eat like no one's business haha although little Rango is putting up a good fight. That little 30" boa worm can pound food too haha. He's like a mini Caesar and always perks up when I come by thinking its dinner time haha.

    And yeah, nice set up. Too complex for me. My snakes get hides and water bowl. That's it lol. I'm such a bad dad :P
  • 03-04-2017, 12:27 AM
    jmcrook
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
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    Probably. I know since moving Caesar up in size, he is fairly quiet now. I mean he comes out and wanders around but doesn't seem to push much if at all now.

    Oh and kind of off topic, I used serp widget again today for Caesar and from what it says, he is 5.1'. And on another note, I talked to Ali today and added another T8 and stand and she said she could wrap it all up and ship it to me late next week!!! I cant wait. Gonna post some pics of the # T10s next to the 3 T8s. Now I just need to add 3 T25s next to that and I'll have my snake monolith!! Sorry to steal the light for a sec.

    And retics can eat like no one's business haha although little Rango is putting up a good fight. That little 30" boa worm can pound food too haha. He's like a mini Caesar and always perks up when I come by thinking its dinner time haha.

    And yeah, nice set up. Too complex for me. My snakes get hides and water bowl. That's it lol. I'm such a bad dad :P

    Yeah her next cage is going to be a bit more minimal. She's got a hide, branch, and bowl currently. Looks nice but can be a pain trying to get her out of the enclosure when needed if she's under or behind the branch. Going to go with the t25 eventually with a shelf and LEDs and locking doors.


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  • 03-04-2017, 12:32 AM
    Sauzo
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    Yeah her next cage is going to be a bit more minimal. She's got a hide, branch, and bowl currently. Looks nice but can be a pain trying to get her out of the enclosure when needed if she's under or behind the branch. Going to go with the t25 eventually with a shelf and LEDs and locking doors.


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    Yeah same here but I also opt with the flexwatt as I keep my house pretty warm. I got an RHP in my Pro-Line right now and dang its a pain lol. To get a 88F hot spot, I have to keep the cool side around 84F. Pretty much no temp gradient for me since my house is too warm. But yeah, paying a little extra to just have a plug and play cage is worth it to me especially when you are already paying over $700, who cares about the extra $20 lol.
  • 03-04-2017, 01:14 AM
    jmcrook
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    Yeah same here but I also opt with the flexwatt as I keep my house pretty warm. I got an RHP in my Pro-Line right now and dang its a pain lol. To get a 88F hot spot, I have to keep the cool side around 84F. Pretty much no temp gradient for me since my house is too warm. But yeah, paying a little extra to just have a plug and play cage is worth it to me especially when you are already paying over $700, who cares about the extra $20 lol.

    Yeah in the summer I don't have the greatest temp gradients but they're not unacceptable. Like 90-82. If the temp was n the room goes under 68-70 though my cool side temps don't go over 73-74. The room basically has to be around the 72-75 range for the RHP to do the trick. A tad annoying because I told bob at pro products that my room temps ranged anywhere from mid-upper 60s to mid upper 70s and recommended the 65 watt panel. Can't really complain because it's still better by leaps and bounds over any bulb source heating option and doesn't kill the humidity


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  • 03-04-2017, 01:28 AM
    Sauzo
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    Yeah in the summer I don't have the greatest temp gradients but they're not unacceptable. Like 90-82. If the temp was n the room goes under 68-70 though my cool side temps don't go over 73-74. The room basically has to be around the 72-75 range for the RHP to do the trick. A tad annoying because I told bob at pro products that my room temps ranged anywhere from mid-upper 60s to mid upper 70s and recommended the 65 watt panel. Can't really complain because it's still better by leaps and bounds over any bulb source heating option and doesn't kill the humidity


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    Yeah I'm using the Ph3 which is the 65 watt Pro Products also. And yeah, if the room is kept cooler, RHPs are awesome but if you keep the room warmer, RHPs don't really do the trick well.
  • 03-04-2017, 01:32 AM
    jmcrook
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    My issue was that it got the hotspot heated well but didn't get the cool side up to the upper 70s-80* if the room got cooler than 70. I know he suggests to set the thermostat probe on the cool side and set to 80 but I just feel like the hot spot would be getting scorched to get it in that range.


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  • 03-04-2017, 01:46 AM
    Sauzo
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    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    My issue was that it got the hotspot heated well but didn't get the cool side up to the upper 70s-80* if the room got cooler than 70. I know he suggests to set the thermostat probe on the cool side and set to 80 but I just feel like the hot spot would be getting scorched to get it in that range.


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    Yeah that's how I got mine set too. The probe on the cool side but I have to set the cool side to 84F for it comes on enough to actually create a hot spot haha. You probably need one size up. This was my first RHP. I've learned since then that if I do use another one, I'll be sure to order one size up. Better to have too much and not need it than too little and need it. That's why I like the flexwatt, it's pretty much just one wattage per say so I just turn it up by about 5F during the winter.
  • 03-04-2017, 01:52 AM
    jmcrook
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    Yeah that's how I got mine set too. The probe on the cool side but I have to set the cool side to 84F for it comes on enough to actually create a hot spot haha. You probably need one size up. This was my first RHP. I've learned since then that if I do use another one, I'll be sure to order one size up. Better to have too much and not need it than too little and need it. That's why I like the flexwatt, it's pretty much just one wattage per say so I just turn it up by about 5F during the winter.

    The thing is the panels have never gone above 75% power or so, and still never gets the cool side to 80 when the hotspot is at 90 but that's only if the room goes below 70*. I had wanted the next size up for the same reasons you've mentioned but Bob said that you don't actually want to go that route because then the panel will cycle too frequently and in the event that the thermostat failed then you're that much more likely to cook your snake.
    I have the probe hanging just behind the RHP halfway down the height of the cage set at 86 and gets me a 90 hot spot on the floor. But if the room goes under 70* the cool side falls below 75*. I just decided to heat the room with an oil radiator set really low and it keeps everything steady. And makes my studio/snake room the coziest room in the house when it's winter haha! More incentive to be in there and get work done or rather be distracted watching snakes hah


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  • 03-04-2017, 02:28 AM
    Sauzo
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    The thing is the panels have never gone above 75% power or so, and still never gets the cool side to 80 when the hotspot is at 90 but that's only if the room goes below 70*. I had wanted the next size up for the same reasons you've mentioned but Bob said that you don't actually want to go that route because then the panel will cycle too frequently and in the event that the thermostat failed then you're that much more likely to cook your snake.
    I have the probe hanging just behind the RHP halfway down the height of the cage set at 86 and gets me a 90 hot spot on the floor. But if the room goes under 70* the cool side falls below 75*. I just decided to heat the room with an oil radiator set really low and it keeps everything steady. And makes my studio/snake room the coziest room in the house when it's winter haha! More incentive to be in there and get work done or rather be distracted watching snakes hah


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    Hmm Bob does have a point. But running a Herpstat, even if it failed, it would fail on the off position so cooking the snake would be a moot point.

    Same here with the oil filled radiator. I use one in the snake room when it gets really cold but my snakes are in a finished basement which is half underground so the temps stay pretty consistent. I just turn it on to low to just knock the edge off. I mean even when it was below freezing here a few months back, the coldest my bottom cage got was 77F on the cool side which is still fine and Rosey seemed to like to sit on that side lol. So I really didn't 'need' it but used it anyways.

    I couldn't imagine my house below 70F. I'd probably die myself before the snakes haha. I keep it a nice toasty 78-80F :D
  • 03-05-2017, 11:40 PM
    Stearns84
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    I have the same concerns, Bob said to put the probe have way down the wall on the cool side. Seems like a concern with the Hotspot getting too hot. When Gene's shows up do you suggest cold side, hot side or middle?

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  • 03-06-2017, 12:44 AM
    Sauzo
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    I have the same concerns, Bob said to put the probe have way down the wall on the cool side. Seems like a concern with the Hotspot getting too hot. When Gene's shows up do you suggest cold side, hot side or middle?

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    Me personally, I would suggest on the cool side if your room is kept colder. You really don't have to worry about the hot side unless you got a rock directly under the RHP or something else that will soak up and hold the heat to the extreme. Something like a plastic hide wont get hot enough assuming your RHP isn't on 100% 24/7. Gene will go as far as he wants under the RHP and once hot will go to the cool side. That's why you want to maintain the cool side so he has somewhere to cool off.
  • 03-14-2017, 08:28 PM
    jmcrook
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    Phyllis got herself a new paint job last night. Took a huge piss while she was out of her cage for a while but still no poo, and she last ate a large 260g rat 11 days ago. I think the larger meals are going to keep her a bit more calm.
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4a21678988.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9bccbd93f0.jpg
    I'm guessing somewhere between 6-7' now


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  • 03-14-2017, 08:45 PM
    Sauzo
    Phyllis looks good and yeah I noticed since I've been feeding Caesar 200g ish rats, he has mellowed out a lot and isn't nearly as spazz inside the cage.
  • 03-14-2017, 10:50 PM
    Stearns84
    Re: Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)
    Damn I really love those enclosures! Phyllis is looking great. I really like her back pattern

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  • 03-14-2017, 11:45 PM
    EL-Ziggy
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    Phyllis is looking mighty fine there JMC ;). Which enclosures are those and are they 6 footers? They look like AP cages but I'm not positive.
  • 03-14-2017, 11:52 PM
    jmcrook
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    Phyllis is looking mighty fine there JMC ;). Which enclosures are those and are they 6 footers? They look like AP cages but I'm not positive.

    Thanks ziggy! Yeah they're AP T8s. Looking into getting a custom T25 for Phyllis sometime soonish


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