Leliana the BEL, progression thread

I love seeing pictures of her!

I have a female BEL too but she doesn't like her picture taken. She moves too much, lol.

Thank you for your response. I hope my girl is just as easy going as yours!

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Thank you Elbee! :D I just have a nice camera that keeps it from blurring when she moves, lol.
And you're welcome rufuslucy, I hope so as well! :)

Your bel is so white! I have a russo leucistic and she still has a lot of yellowing. I love her regardless but man, I bought a white diamond because I thought I'd get something like yours. Beautiful snake as always.

Thank you! :) I think I got pretty lucky with her, she is one of the whitest examples of a lesser/mojave that I've seen. She sometimes has a very very light yellow line down her spine, but I can usually only see it when she is in shed :)
I had a cute little photoshoot with her and my pin the other day.
"Mario! The power of the Stars is restored to the castle…and it’s all thanks to you!"
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She's beautiful! I've got a nice Karma male (lesser phantom) and he's got to be the coolest snake ever! http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...31e8e999de.jpg


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He's so pretty! :)

So I took a nice close up of Leliana today :)
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Have you seen any further signs of Leliana producing offspring?

Not yet :/ I don't have the 'feel' for finding follicles, so now I am just checking her every day to see how she's developing.
Well actually now that you mention it, she was laying slightly on her side today, and she usually doesn't do that. So hoping that that's a sign.

So! I tried my hand at palpating again yesterday, and I think I felt a few follicles! About 10mm I think. We will see how she develops :) Once she gets bigger I'll have to take her tree away, don't want her to hurt any possible eggs
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That is great! What was she paired with?

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She was paired with a pinstripe :) I am hoping most of the clutch will be kingpins and jigsaws, I am hoping for a little male kingpin to pair with a future leopard, I am shooting for eventual ocelots :)

Leliana now weighs in at 2,319g!
Hoping part of it is follicle growth :)

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Leliana now weighs in at 2,319g!
Hoping part of it is follicle growth :)

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I think that the sheer size makes it even more of a stunning snake !

Honestly I wouldn't be too concerned about the log considering snakes don't have someone coming in and cleaning up their environment when they're gravid out in the wild. They're designed to slither around all over the place, no point in fussing too much! :)

Thank you! :) It's my first year breeding so I am just really nervous about everything, haha. Today was cage cleaning day, and she's about to go in to shed so I am hoping it is a pre ovulation shed! I got her out and had the hubby snap a few pics before putting her back.
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She went belly up! She's never done that before, ovulation is incoming :D
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Looks promising! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Thank you! I am hoping after she sheds that I will catch an ovy :D

Today I felt 7 ping pong ball sized follicles!! :)

Anyone have a Karma ??

Are they one of the whitest and do they stay white or get yellowy as they age ?

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Anyone have a Karma ??

Are they one of the whitest and do they stay white or get yellowy as they age ?

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In general I vote that super Lessers are one of the whitest but it really varies even within the same BEL morph. You can't know for sure how white a hatchling will stay. Some say super russos are the whitest yet mine has a faint yellow stripe.

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Anyone have a Karma ??

Are they one of the whitest and do they stay white or get yellowy as they age ?

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Originally Posted by HannahLou

In general I vote that super Lessers are one of the whitest but it really varies even within the same BEL morph. You can't know for sure how white a hatchling will stay. Some say super russos are the whitest yet mine has a faint yellow stripe.

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i've seen Karma's with grayish dorsals and dots. all BEL's varies but the cleanest is the White Diamond.

IMO the whitest BP's are all white Pieds like White Weddings and Lesser Pieds.

Super russo seems to be the brightest white to me :) It's really hard to tell through pics tho, since so many people edit the colors as well, haha.
So! Leliana's follicles are reaching the point to where I think ovulation could be happening any time. I took her out one last time just to clean out her cage and get it ready for the eggs, so I snapped a few pics :) Keep in mind, she isn't over weight, her feeding schedule has been on a two week schedule and she also has been refusing, all that 'fat' is from the follicles :D
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That looks like some tail suck and full ovy is minutes away! Get that girl some chocolate!

Either I missed ovy or we're still waiting for it! In the mean time, I redid her cage as I am letting her do maternal incubation :)
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Pretty sure I missed the ovulation when I went on a weekend trip two weeks ago or so :( So now its a waiting game to see, if she sheds in about two weeks then I will know :)
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If she laid and it wasn't in the nice spot that you have cut out of the grass for her....would you move the eggs or keep them where they are?

I would keep them where they are so she wouldn't be put off wrapping them, I would just move the moss over to where she laid them :)

Some more belly up action :)
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Has she laid yet?

Not yet, still waiting on pre-lay shed :)

Looks like I was wrong and didn't miss ovulation, because here it is! :)
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Nice!!! She looks like she's getting mightily uncomfortable. And the look on her face is very "not right now mom!":gj:

Right! So she swelled up even more today, along with some tail suck. So excited for this! The poor girl though, haha :P
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Pre lay shed has started! :)
Sadly we got a sudden burst of gnats in the house, and they flocked to the moss in her cage so I had to scrap the whole thing and replace it with paper towels. :/ She will be put on reptichip when it comes in, I think we've mostly taken care of the gnat problem.
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Finally, pre-lay shed!
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2 1/2 weeks until eggs!!


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One gorgeous soon to be mama


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What a beautiful BEL


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Been stalking this thread since it started.. lol. She is stunning. I love BELs, looking forward to seeing a nice clutch and babies!

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Thanks guys! And its super flattering to see someone still here that was following this thread from the beginning, haha
I'll keep this updated, the second the eggs are here I'll update again :)

Two more weeks!!
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She's due a week from monday, and man she has some egg butt!
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Wow look at that egg booty! Gorgeous BEL by the way!


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Right! She is still holding those eggs in, hopefully she drops them soon. And thank you! :D
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Sosososooooo close
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Man she is gorgeous

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Wow, she is absolutely stunning! Just gorgeous.