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Yep.....Just wanted them out of tubs and into a transitional cage. Got them for a great price too. I'll see how I like vision, or if I'll go with ap again for adult cages.

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Yep love my visions but the warping in the larger models is a real issue just something to watch for. You won't see it though in the smaller tanks

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Yep love my visions but the warping in the larger models is a real issue just something to watch for. You won't see it though in the smaller tanks

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Any way to prevent it?

Using homemade racks to hold them or making metal internal framing is the only way

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Using homemade racks to hold them or making metal internal framing is the only way

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So they sag from stacking them directly on top of each other? I just got two 632s and with how much I spent on em I definitely don't want them sagging. Lol

Yeah ultimately it warps the bottom and forms a rise. Then the doors kind of sag and the glass gets hard to put in and out

Yea what Cody said, everything I've seen says you definitely don't want them just sitting on top of eachother! :)

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Originally Posted by Mike41793

Yea what Cody said, everything I've seen says you definitely don't want them just sitting on top of eachother! :)

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What I have been trying out with mine is doing a wood frame between them to distrubute the weight along the outer edges and try to stop the sagging in the middle. Now mine aren't the 6 footers, but it seems to be working well so far. 6 Months with no sag.

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Took the motley tiger girl out today she ended up running up my body though while I tried to photograph her .


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WOW! The head on this Retic is amazing!! Very beautiful!

Thanks this is what the motley gene does aside from shifting the side pattern to nothing :)

What you gonna breed her with?

Your videos on Youtube had alot to do with me getting a Retic. I was gonna go with a Suriname Boa, which I had in the past. They were going to ship me a female, but she ended up having a something wrong with her tail, so instead of going with a male I changed my mind and got a Jampea female a month ago. She is 5 months old now. After I ordered the boa, I got to watching videos on retics and did alot of research and was going to change my order to the Jampea anyway, but then I got that call telling me the boa had issues before I could call to change my order. So it was meant to be! I had been without snakes for 7 years and didn't know who was who, so I ordered her from LLLreptile. She is my pet, not for breeding. They sold her to me as 100% Jampea, but me not seeing the parents I take that with a grain of salt. After only a month with her, I'm having to stop myself from buying another one! I'm becoming a Retic Addict!!
I do plan on getting a few more, but from a good breeder this time.

The Tiger Motley actually left my facility about a month ago. I'm working my lines down smaller and smaller, so since she was such a high % of mainland, I thought it would be best to move her into another facility for a new project. I can't mention what she's going to be bred by, but it will be a world first that is for sure!

Appreciate the comments to the videos, saw your comment on the purple girl video from a while back. She is, much much bigger, at this point in time. The thing about Jampeas to keep in mind is that they can and will exceed normal growth potential for a dwarf, if and only if, you feed them heavily. Given a lighter dosage of food for the first 2-3 years, will keep them in their expected range with no health warrant (do the same to a mainland retic and you will have health issues from being underfed).

They are amazing animals, and a strong passion of mine. Retics are a species that can potentially be in everyone's homes that want one. They are coming in smaller packages every year, and in a lot more variety. Price is kind of steep for the morph stuff (good for the breeders, bad for the consumers), but prices are making their way lower. Next year I will be hopefully offering up the smallest purple goldenchilds available on the market, they will be around 62.5% - 56.25% Jampea and will come from some of the best stock available. That's my main project at this time. The rest are kind of just side things that I may or may not push back into. But for this year, this is my big, little, goal.

Cheers,

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The Tiger Motley actually left my facility about a month ago. I'm working my lines down smaller and smaller, so since she was such a high % of mainland, I thought it would be best to move her into another facility for a new project. I can't mention what she's going to be bred by, but it will be a world first that is for sure!

Appreciate the comments to the videos, saw your comment on the purple girl video from a while back. She is, much much bigger, at this point in time. The thing about Jampeas to keep in mind is that they can and will exceed normal growth potential for a dwarf, if and only if, you feed them heavily. Given a lighter dosage of food for the first 2-3 years, will keep them in their expected range with no health warrant (do the same to a mainland retic and you will have health issues from being underfed).

They are amazing animals, and a strong passion of mine. Retics are a species that can potentially be in everyone's homes that want one. They are coming in smaller packages every year, and in a lot more variety. Price is kind of steep for the morph stuff (good for the breeders, bad for the consumers), but prices are making their way lower. Next year I will be hopefully offering up the smallest purple goldenchilds available on the market, they will be around 62.5% - 56.25% Jampea and will come from some of the best stock available. That's my main project at this time. The rest are kind of just side things that I may or may not push back into. But for this year, this is my big, little, goal.

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Thats cool. I wanted a big snake, just not mainland female big. I've had pretty big boa's and a Burm before, so I'm used to more girthy snakes. I don't mind if she gets 14 to 15 feet, maybe a little longer, I have the room. I just don't want one so big that I need more then one or two people with me to hanlde it. I will adjust her feeding as she grows. I've also had some wild caught venomous snakes when I was younger that I legally speaking shouldn't have had, but I would always relocate them from the suburbs to a ranch we used to have. I am thinking of getting a Golden Child next, or a Platinum Jampea. I think the Golden Child is so beautiful, same thing with Platinums. The Jampea I have is proly going to be the biggest I will get. I would like a few SD sized retics though. These retics are like no other snake I have had. I love how smart mine is and she has a great personality. Never thought I would be saying a snake has personality, but I never had a retic till now! Videos and pictures don't do them justice at all.

Nope, it takes working with them, feeding them, and interacting with them on a daily basis to truly appreciate them.

Venomous are legal in MOST of Texas, just not within city limits for major areas. Check ordinances. But legally speaking, as long as you have a hunting license, and non-game permit, you are allowed to keep any NON PROTECTED species in Texas, including venomous. Exotic venomous like Gabs or Cobras will need a controlled exotic snake permit, 20 bucks and done.

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Nope, it takes working with them, feeding them, and interacting with them on a daily basis to truly appreciate them.

Venomous are legal in MOST of Texas, just not within city limits for major areas. Check ordinances. But legally speaking, as long as you have a hunting license, and non-game permit, you are allowed to keep any NON PROTECTED species in Texas, including venomous. Exotic venomous like Gabs or Cobras will need a controlled exotic snake permit, 20 bucks and done.

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I didn't know the laws then, this was in the early 90's, I was a teenager. Now I'm 33 and don't feel invencible anymore, so I'll stay with non-venomous or at least rear fang low toxic like the Rofous Beaked snake, which I heard is also very smart.

I haven't even had mine for a month and I already want to find a female for him :D

I love motley Tigers, such a cool simple two gene combo. I love the albino gc's too. Can't wait to see what you make Cody!!

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I haven't even had mine for a month and I already want to find a female for him :D

I love motley Tigers, such a cool simple two gene combo. I love the albino gc's too. Can't wait to see what you make Cody!!

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Same here. I'm not going to breed my Jamp, she's my pet and I don't know much about her background. But I am looking to buy a few more to breed. These retics are awsome, not like any other snake i've had. I'm addicted for sure. I'm looking at getting a Platinum Tiger next.

Didnt want to start a new thread for just 2 pics, but took the kiddo to the natural history museum over the weekend and they had a tic skull on display, he thought it was pretty cool

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Thought he looked particularly good this morning
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Goldenchild since I haven't added to this much lately.
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Nice, now make some albino gc's!!! :D

Working on it mike ;-), my big purple girl is eating about 5lb a meat a week right now in preparation for breeding in about a month! Goldenchild is ready to go ;-)

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Working on it mike ;-), my big purple girl is eating about 5lb a meat a week right now in preparation for breeding in about a month! Goldenchild is ready to go ;-)

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Awesome! :)

Dare I post again? Lol

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Purple dwarf out with the fiance last night during cage clean ups.

Cripes that's a big snake

Beautiful snake... and still too big for me lol. This is why I'd have to get a super dwarf and know the locales so that I knew for certain that it would stay smaller. Really nice patterning and contrast on her though.

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Beautiful snake... and still too big for me lol. This is why I'd have to get a super dwarf and know the locales so that I knew for certain that it would stay smaller. Really nice patterning and contrast on her though.

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We're in the process of moving the snakes to our new home, when the move is completed I can show some adult examples of the superdwarfs and how they are now - pertaining to size - comparative to the same age as this purple dwarf. Even with monitoring locals and breeders closely, also monitor generation cross amounts - f2 will stay significantly smaller than f1 crosses for 50% stuff, expect f1 to reach 12' and f2 to stay around 8-9' as adult females. My 30 month old 50% Kalatoa F2 is no longer adding length at around 7.5', and slowly putting girth on. Likewise, my 62.5% Selayer from mid 2012, is around 7 ft with a massive head (This is my dwarf genetic stripe female 66% het purple).

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Cripes that's a big snake

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FWIW - she's between 13-14', and about a month ago at her last weigh in - she came in at 46 lb of snake :-)

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This face is too freaking cute!! [emoji38] I have got to get one of these things soon. But on a much smaller scale lol. Super dwarf for me all the way.


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Yeah... Even 8' adult may be too big for my taste.. I don't suppose there are any super dwarfs that stay around 6' - 7'? It's really more of a weight thing for me too. I'd be more comfortable with an 8' 5lb snake than an 8' 30lb one, if that makes sense.

The largest snake I have now is my BCA male... Who is only about 2 years old and still tiny at 3.5' and about 1lb. He should top out at around 6' and *hopefully* 15lbs, so I may wait and see how well I can handle him as an adult before I commit to a potentially much larger, faster, and possibly heavier super dwarf retic.

The retics have such great colors, patterns, and personality though, which makes it a tough decision... If I knew for certain that one would top out at about the size of an adult BCI male, I'd definitely plan on acquiring one.

The other issue, of course, is price.. and I understand that at the moment, high percentage super dwarfs are going for a good bit of cash. This is understandable considering that there aren't many around and it's still a relatively young project. I'll probably also have to wait until they are more affordable. My dream animal would probably be a SD tiger, or purple albino (or any combination of those two morphs).

Thanks again for sharing the pics and info!

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We're in the process of moving the snakes to our new home, when the move is completed I can show some adult examples of the superdwarfs and how they are now - pertaining to size - comparative to the same age as this purple dwarf. Even with monitoring locals and breeders closely, also monitor generation cross amounts - f2 will stay significantly smaller than f1 crosses for 50% stuff, expect f1 to reach 12' and f2 to stay around 8-9' as adult females. My 30 month old 50% Kalatoa F2 is no longer adding length at around 7.5', and slowly putting girth on. Likewise, my 62.5% Selayer from mid 2012, is around 7 ft with a massive head (This is my dwarf genetic stripe female 66% het purple).

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FWIW - she's between 13-14', and about a month ago at her last weigh in - she came in at 46 lb of snake :-)

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After reading her specs.....

I stand by my original evaluation. CRIPES. that's a big snake. :O:eyepoppin

Hey where'd my pics go? Lol

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Yeah... Even 8' adult may be too big for my taste.. I don't suppose there are any super dwarfs that stay around 6' - 7'? It's really more of a weight thing for me too. I'd be more comfortable with an 8' 5lb snake than an 8' 30lb one, if that makes sense.

The largest snake I have now is my BCA male... Who is only about 2 years old and still tiny at 3.5' and about 1lb. He should top out at around 6' and *hopefully* 15lbs, so I may wait and see how well I can handle him as an adult before I commit to a potentially much larger, faster, and possibly heavier super dwarf retic.

The retics have such great colors, patterns, and personality though, which makes it a tough decision... If I knew for certain that one would top out at about the size of an adult BCI male, I'd definitely plan on acquiring one.

The other issue, of course, is price.. and I understand that at the moment, high percentage super dwarfs are going for a good bit of cash. This is understandable considering that there aren't many around and it's still a relatively young project. I'll probably also have to wait until they are more affordable. My dream animal would probably be a SD tiger, or purple albino (or any combination of those two morphs).

Thanks again for sharing the pics and info!

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A pure male super dwarf will stay under 6'-7' for sure. A female should hit 6'-7'. They stay pretty slender though so there's not as much weight.

My retic is almost 4feet already and you'd never guess that looking at him. You may guess it when he comes flying out of the tub looking for food though haha. Or when you're holding him and go to do something and he's stretched all the way out reaching for trouble and only hanging onto you with his tail when you look back...

I love this thread. :wuv:

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Retics big move day! Pics after I finish the new reptile room
It's half the size of my old office so we will see

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Retics big move day! Pics after I finish the new reptile room
It's half the size of my old office so we will see

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Downsizing? :( boooooo

Actually up. Moving from an apartment to a 4 bedroom house. But only 1 of the rooms is going for the collection. Moving from a 16x14 reptile office into a 10x13 it's a tight fit

Good luck with the move! We just moved into our first home and I got to have my first dedicated reptile room. It's great, but I can say there's always something that "needs fixing" with the house so far. a week after moving in a toilet needed to be repaired, then two fan pull cords broke, now one of the two fridges left with the house has stopped working (and it was my rodent storage fridge too)... Now we're on to ant issues lol. Good luck with your new house.

sorry you're downgrading in size for your snake room though.. I'd imagine more space would be a plus when dealing with retics.

Mark41793- Thanks for the info! Since they stay in the size I'm looking for I'll put them "on the list", but I'm sure it'll still be awhile before they come down in price enough for my husband to let me buy one. :rolleyes:

EDIT: Just noticed the red "angry face" at the top of my post.. Not sure why it's there, but I can't remove it. I'm not angry, I swear. :P

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Moved in. Tight fit!!!

Looks nice!

Thanks! It feels good to have them home. Been commuting between two homes to take care of them lately. Now everyone is under one roof!

Hey I'm new on here but not so new to snake. I have however just recently joined the retic crowd so here are mine:

Ricky. Male het albino

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Lucy. Female het Albino


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Elsa. Female. Goldenchild het albino



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And two more of my Goldenchild

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Do you even tight fit bro?

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Reptileexperts- I know what you mean, we just moved and my animals were at our old apartment for about 2 weeks before I moved them over. It was such a relief to get them all in one place. I hope your new setup works well for you. Didn't you say (a few months back) that you were focusing your collection down to some select retics / morphs? How many animals do you have now, if you don't mind me asking? (just curious how many you're fitting in your new smaller space).

Serpentsteve- Nice looking tics! I love goldenchilds.

Expensive Hobby- Wow... Is that the permanent arrangement? How do you access the cages behind the vision rack? That's a lot of snakes in a small space.

It's not permanent lol. And it's not 100% of the collection either. But the freedom breeder 66-6 moves against the stack of 4 footers and we can access the other 6 footers behind it.

I'm actually looking for a commercial space, or at the minimum a new home to buy that has a very large shop on the property.

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Reptileexperts- I know what you mean, we just moved and my animals were at our old apartment for about 2 weeks before I moved them over. It was such a relief to get them all in one place. I hope your new setup works well for you. Didn't you say (a few months back) that you were focusing your collection down to some select retics / morphs? How many animals do you have now, if you don't mind me asking? (just curious how many you're fitting in your new smaller space).

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I'm still working on the cut down - time is becoming the largest constraint so I want to be able to focus on my main passions so its always about that aspect, and never a burden. I have only downsized about 3 adult retics at the moment, as well as a good bit of my colubrids, this was my last season breeding them. I use to be focused in 50% SD projects, and now I seem to be wanting to work more with Jampea after watching what happens with color when you do various things with them. As well as Seslayer a bit. Dwarf Lavender Sunstripes are on the list to be made here, as are Dwarf Purple Albino Goldenchilds (or Lav if my GC proves het white this winter). Hopefully I prove out my 75% Jampea to be het snow (het anery, 66% het albino) as well as my goldenchild (het albino, 50% het anery) and produce 62.5% Jampea Snow Goldenchild Tigers, and variations there of. Outside of these, the rest are just pets at this point. 3 main females, 2 main boys. May dabble with my SD stuff for one more season, but life is insanely busy these days. Heck, I waited months and months and MONTHS for Destiny to come out on console, and my fiancé shows up on my birthday with an xbox one and Destiny last month, and I've been able to play . . . twice? and no more than 20 combined minutes of gameplay!! Ain't nobody got time for that!

It amazes me every time I see it, exactly how intelligent Retics look. I'll leave owning them to you guys though, I don't think I could ever handle a giant python and not feel a good degree of fear!