what types of pythons make what?

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

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:gj: right back at yah!!!!
and plus why are you doing all of Garrets talking for him, and turning it on to someone else who is just concerned about a animal, and anyway its Garret whos being extremly inmature not anyone else!!!!!

oh maybe your selling him a snake!

In your last post you stated that you were done with the argueing and now you posted again with more b.s. to fuel him to retaliate. Im not tryin to get in this aguement its all yours just showin how ignorant you sounded but i do agree with some of the stuff your sayin. Garett good luck with whatever you decide but please research.

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Originally Posted by kylesreptiles

In your last post you stated that you were done with the argueing and now you posted again with more b.s. to fuel him to retaliate. Im not tryin to get in this aguement its all yours just showin how ignorant you sounded but i do agree with some of the stuff your sayin. Garett good luck with whatever you decide but please research.

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No, no Im really done. Me and PW are heading down the mature path and just forgetting it.

i tap out, im done too!!!!!!!!

guys this has gotten out of hand all i wanted to know is what 2 snakes made what and which snakes would sell better then others if i get two many to keep. this is not a money scheme but i have a family of four and dont plan on keeping every single snake that is produced, when there are other ppl out there that dont desire to breed but would rather have one of these pets to keep as there own. plus if i wasn't interested in the well being of the snake i wouldn't have asked for your advice! :gj:

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Originally Posted by garett

guys this has gotten out of hand all i wanted to know is what 2 snakes made what and which snakes would sell better then others if i get two many to keep. this is not a money scheme but i have a family of four and dont plan on keeping every single snake that is produced, when there are other ppl out there that dont desire to breed but would rather have one of these pets to keep as there own. plus if i wasn't interested in the well being of the snake i wouldn't have asked for your advice! :gj:

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I think the biggest problem with this thread is that you're asking questions that can't be answered in a simple paragraph. Heck, whole huge books have been written on the subject and there's still new stuff to learn popping up all the time. It's not that folks don't want to help...just that there aren't any simple answers that you seem to be looking for.

There are SO many different morphs and the market varies SO much from year to year...and everyone has different ideas about what are the "best" morphs because everyone has different tastes in what they believe makes an exciting or beautiful animal.

So my advice would be to simply slow down and be a little more patient with yourself and the learning curve you are embarking on. Read through the links offered. Dr del posted a very good link that will help you get a basic grasp of basic genetics and the terms you see flying around and which of the most common morphs fall into which categories. Don't be afraid to ask questions...but if you could narrow those questions down so that they have a more specific answer, it'll be a lot more helpful for you.

Good luck with it, and welcome to BP.net. :handshake I'm sorry if you got off to a rocky start.

What were your original intentions with breeding them? If you want to make a little money on the side from breeding your beloved pets and you enjoy the hobby, it's one thing (so long as you treat them like pets and not "products" that you acquired overnight to make babies for you). But as for supporting your family with a business, ask any of the larger breeders and they will more than likely tell you they had to start somewhere and initially had to "invest" (so to speak) in a ton of quality snakes to get where they are now.

To answer your question - (and I am by no means an expert, only a small time hobbyist) if you want to start breeding you should begin with something simple and go from there, say a pastel x normal. You can't expect to start with high end morphs right away unless you have a lot of $ and experience at your disposal. And for the extras that you want to sell "better" to people who just want them as pets and non-breeding purposes, I can tell you not too many people would drop $1000 on a bumblebee as a family pet. You also have to take into consideration that you are not a well-known and established breeder, therefore you cannot expect to charge the same prices.

Good luck if you are really interested and have a good heart for these kind creatures. I hope you aren't discouraged. Just do it for the right reasons, keep your snakes' health and well-being at the front of your mind at all times :)

I would like to put my .02 in here.

If I were you Garett I would start by first getting a pair or trio of normals and breed them. That way if you are unable to do it you only lost a small investment and the adults are still great not so expensive pets.

Second, if you are able to produce some babies you can sell the normal females on here to a lot of people, I myself am looking for about 10 normal females, and make some money on them. The males you can sell to friends or even pet stores. I know that is not a lot of money there but it is still worth it for a first time breeder.

Third, after you get use to breeding then spend some money on which ever morph you like. My favorite is the red axanthic and they have some awesome crosses that I love. My wife on the other hand loved pieds... Good thing I am the one in charge of getting the snakes huh??? You could start with a pastel male, spider male, any of the co-dom traits. Co-dom means that they are a "visable het" or in other words you take say 2 pastels and breed them together you get pastels, normals, and super pastels..... If you breed a pastel to a normal you get normals and pastels..... hope you got that so far...

After all of that I would then get into the recessives like albino and such. Most co-doms are not as expensive as a lot of recessives, well the lower end co-doms.......

Lastly like JLC said you need to kinda narrow down the question slightly. It would be a lot easier to know what you have to invest right now and how much you would like in return, always expect half of what you want in return.

Breeding snakes is not an over night thing it takes many people their whole lives to do it. It takes even more time to do it well.

That is my .02

yeah that sounds like a good idea, i guess i was wanting an overview of some ideas on a good investment. i dont care bout making money from breeding i have always loved snakes just never really had the opportunity to get into it until now but i was basically wanting to buy a snake that if i did have to sell some of the offspring there would be a market for the ones that i was trying to sell. I dont have bad intentions for them at all im an animal lover and aways have been.

Dude if that's how it would've came out in your first post then I would have never jumped on you like that. And I wouldn't have two infractions to boot lol. Welcome to Bp.net, and enjoy the plethora of information before you.