Ultimate morph yet to be produced....

A super normal

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Originally Posted by BrandonsBalls

Speaking of multiple combo morphs...

At some point, when the combos get into a multiple of multiples, isn't identification of some of the offspring going to be difficult to the point where a specimen can be argued either way, or, at least open to speculation?

Does anyone see my point?

Has there been issues like this already?

Brandon

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i've wondered that myself

how about a hypo champagne super patel g. stripe (mimosa super patel g.stripe)

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Originally Posted by BrandonsBalls

Speaking of multiple combo morphs...

At some point, when the combos get into a multiple of multiples, isn't identification of some of the offspring going to be difficult to the point where a specimen can be argued either way, or, at least open to speculation?

Does anyone see my point?

Has there been issues like this already?

Brandon

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I think a number of combos are just going to be a smushy looking mess and not worth much, but they are going to need to be tested to see I'm sure plenty of mixes are left to be discovered.

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Originally Posted by BrandonsBalls

Speaking of multiple combo morphs...

At some point, when the combos get into a multiple of multiples, isn't identification of some of the offspring going to be difficult to the point where a specimen can be argued either way, or, at least open to speculation?

Does anyone see my point?

Has there been issues like this already?

Brandon

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Actually, I've seen this happen with a few different combos (though, off the top of my head, I can't remember which ones exactly). Essentially, if I remember correctly, in each case the combo animals were (in my opinion) less than stellar looking and needed to be held back to determine their exact genotype.

I've seen breeders combine genes that they still didn't fully understand. I've also seen combos that resulted in either very subtle (and, thus, wholly unimpressive phenotypes) or were the exact opposite and were far too "messy" looking. Some of the white snakes that have been produced are likely a case of the genes canceling out all pigmentation and I'm sure that the more triple, quadruple and even quintuple gene combinations we see produced will also start to result in the same phenotypical epistasis (one gene canceling out the expression of one or more genes) response.

I had heard a few years ago about a "plan" or a way to create what I would consider the pinnacle of combos - the blue ball. It seems far fetched on the surface, but the idea was to use the "banana ball" along with a few other morphs in what what would end up being a decade-long experiment to create an all blue snake. It seemed plausible at the time.

Anything after that would be small potatoes in my book.

Caramel Glow Pied. Considering that's a triple recessive, it could be a while. I don't know if anybody is even working on it.

Brock Wagner is working on Ultramel Clowns and I think that would make a killer combo. Add hypo to the mix since I've yet to see hypo not improve anything and that would be my ultimate morph. What would it be called? Ultra Glow Clown?

het for everything.

If I ever have the funds for said project I would like to produce super black pastel lavender albino ball pythons...... a solid white snake as a baby, but as the lavender albino matures and the lavender comes out.......... I think it should be spifftacular

Haven't checked the whole thread yet, but the first thing that popped into my head is "Caramel Mojave Pied" - yowza, that would be cool. :rolleye2: