Bear Grylls just killed a Boa!!

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

Yes, he is doing it for ratings.... I guess I don't see it as a bad thing.

Do you feel the same about fishing TV shows where they keep the fish they catch? What about hunting shows? Do you think the same thing there? To me they are all the same. They are entertaining AND educational. Way better then most of the crap on TV now a days, that is for sure.

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Least in the hunting and fishing shows there is some educational value. Not so much with MvW.

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Originally Posted by Typical_08

Least in the hunting and fishing shows there is some educational value. Not so much with MvW.

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Teaching you how to survive isn't educational?

I use to watch the outdoor channel a lot. I didn't learn anything. Just a guy sitting in a tree/blind for 20 minutes (of a 30 minute program; yes I know it's actually longer) waiting for an animal to pass by so he can kill it.

I never really picked up much as far as survival techniques go from MvW.. Like when he went catfish noodling, he made it look like you can put your hands just about anywhere in swamp waters of louisiana and catch a catfish.

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Originally Posted by RKO

Teaching you how to survive isn't educational?

I use to watch the outdoor channel a lot. I didn't learn anything. Just a guy sitting in a tree/blind for 20 minutes (of a 30 minute program; yes I know it's actually longer) waiting for an animal to pass by so he can kill it.

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He does not teach you how to survive. He teaches you how to kill yourself while in the wild. Everything I have ever learned tells me that 99.99% of what he shows is totally wrong, and only someone with little to no experience in the primitive skills would attempt to follow his advise.

Matter of fact, a couple kids tried using his advise when they got lost in the woods and they almost died.

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Originally Posted by Typical_08

He does not teach you how to survive. He teaches you how to kill yourself while in the wild. Everything I have ever learned tells me that 99.99% of what he shows is totally wrong, and only someone with little to no experience in the primitive skills would attempt to follow his advise.

Matter of fact, a couple kids tried using his advise when they got lost in the woods and they almost died.

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Wow! this is great information! How bout helping us learn from this and PROVIDE so examples / proof of this.

Where is the story of the kids who tried using his advice when they got lost in the woods and almost died?

Pick an episode. give us a minute by minute breakdown explaining in detail exactly why "99.9%" of it is wrong.


Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

Wow! this is great information! How bout helping us learn from this and PROVIDE so examples / proof of this.

Where is the story of the kids who tried using his advice when they got lost in the woods and almost died?

Pick an episode. give us a minute by minute breakdown explaining in detail exactly why "99.9%" of it is wrong.


Thanks!

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I can’t pull up the news site from my work computer. NMCI blocks a lot of stuff. But I would be more than happy to provide a link when I get home.

Now about the other part of your post. I can’t very well break it down minute by minute at the moment, but lets hit a few quick things where his advise is more likely to kill you than help you. For starters, drinking your own pee, intentionally crossing freezing rivers just because it is quicker, drinking stagnant water when there are dead animals laying next to it, drinking the water from poo (bacteria can kill you in days) and yes he took a large dose of anti-bs as soon as they said “cut”. Etc ad nauseum.

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Originally Posted by Typical_08

Now about the other part of your post. I can’t very well break it down minute by minute at the moment, but lets hit a few quick things where his advise is more likely to kill you than help you. For starters, drinking your own pee, intentionally crossing freezing rivers just because it is quicker, drinking stagnant water when there are dead animals laying next to it, drinking the water from poo (bacteria can kill you in days) and yes he took a large dose of anti-bs as soon as they said “cut”. Etc ad nauseum.

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The whole point of the show is to show the extreme things you can do to survive in extreme life threatning situations. Out of the stuff you just listed, what one is inacurate?

For example, the crossing of a freezing river just because it is quicker... So If you had a choice between crossing the freezing river to get to shelter OR certain death from hypothermia if you didn't cross the river, you would just sit and die? Same thing with all the others. If faced with certain death otherwise, what one of the things you listed would you not do?

I guess you just don't get the point of the show. It is to entertain, and to provide information... He is not showing things you would do on a normal camping trip. He is showing basic survival skills that in my honest opinon are not innacurate.

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Originally Posted by JAMills

Yeah, I have always liked Survivor Man better. Bear has a team of camera men a crew with him. The Survivor Man does it all alone. They drop him off and give him X number of days before they come looking for him.

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I liked Survivor man more too.... I dont really care for the "shock" value shows as much.

Just a few things. Les Stroud (Survivorman) is Canadian. Even though he DOES have a crew that can be called in now, in the beginning he took his cameras and did everything on his own. Filming, editing, voice over, etc....he even wrote the intro song and performed it. He is totally real and I like him WAY more than that fraud Bear.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

The whole point of the show is to show the extreme things you can do to survive in extreme life threatning situations. Out of the stuff you just listed, what one is inacurate?

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All of it is inaccurate.

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For example, the crossing of a freezing river just because it is quicker... So If you had a choice between crossing the freezing river to get to shelter OR certain death from hypothermia if you didn't cross the river, you would just sit and die? Same thing with all the others. If faced with certain death otherwise, what one of the things you listed would you not do?

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If you are so close to dying of hypothermia that you can not walk to a shallow portion of the river, then entering the water and getting all your clothes wet will 0nly kill you faster. If you drink your own pee, you only dehydrate yourself faster, your body is getting rid of it for a reason. If you drink water from poo, you not only take in a lot of bacteria that can kill you, but you also take in a lot of stuff that will only dehydrate you faster. Leaving an area where you can easily build shelter, just to get wet so you have to build shelter, is not the brightest idea in the world.

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I guess you just don't get the point of the show. It is to entertain, and to provide information... He is not showing things you would do on a normal camping trip. He is showing basic survival skills that in my honest opinon are not innacurate.

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In my learned opinion (and in the professional opinion of the show’s first survival “expert”), it is inaccurate. If it provided useable accurate information, then I would not be complaining about it.