Show your Pewter love!

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Originally Posted by Mischke

What’s the difference between a Sterling Pastel and a Pewter?

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Sterling = super pastel/cinnamon....the snake is a super pastel and a cinnamon.....it is expressing those traits at the same time.

Silver streak = super pastel/black pastel

Pewter = pastel/cinnamon OR pastel/black pastel

A sterling and a silver streak are very similar......you just use different forms of the same mutation to make it. Both sterlings and silver streaks are a "step up" from cinny pewters and black pewters.

Some of the confusion surrounding these morphs comes from different names for similar looking morphs (some breeders feel it is justified while others don't).
But a lot of the confusion started with the snake with original sterling moniker......it was most likely misidentified. The breeder called the snake a sterling when in reality it was probably an exceptional super pastel (not a super pastel/cinny). It didn't look like the sterlings that were produced after it. Not sure if subsequent breedings proved if it was a super pastel or not......it should be around that size/time right about now. Not only were the pictures posted on forums but they were posted in a couple of the nicer bp books too.

Here is an old picture of my sterling:
http://www.joecompelreptiles.com/ima...s/sterling.jpg

If I get around to it, I'll post some updated pics.

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Originally Posted by Joe_Compel

Sterling = super pastel/cinnamon....the snake is a super pastel and a cinnamon.....it is expressing those traits at the same time.

Silver streak = super pastel/black pastel

Pewter = pastel/cinnamon OR pastel/black pastel

A sterling and a silver streak are very similar......you just use different forms of the same mutation to make it. Both sterlings and silver streaks are a "step up" from cinny pewters and black pewters.

Some of the confusion surrounding these morphs comes from different names for similar looking morphs (some breeders feel it is justified while others don't).
But a lot of the confusion started with the snake with original sterling moniker......it was most likely misidentified. The breeder called the snake a sterling when in reality it was probably an exceptional super pastel (not a super pastel/cinny). It didn't look like the sterlings that were produced after it. Not sure if subsequent breedings proved if it was a super pastel or not......it should be around that size/time right about now. Not only were the pictures posted on forums but they were posted in a couple of the nicer bp books too.

Here is an old picture of my sterling:
http://www.joecompelreptiles.com/ima...s/sterling.jpg

If I get around to it, I'll post some updated pics.

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I am loving that Sterling! :O

Here's a shot of some of our different Pewters to show the incredible variation in color, pattern and contrast. All 3 of these are from the same lines (Graziani pastel X Graziani Cinnamon), none are in shed, and all are in the 800-1200g range. You can really see here how your choice of parents can influence the look of the babies.

http://www.centralontarioexotics.com/images/pewters.jpg

-John

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Originally Posted by Joe_Compel

http://www.joecompelreptiles.com/ima...mal_pewter.jpg

Here are some pewters that I produced this year. Crazy variation.....right?

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Joe, those are some of the best looking pastels I've seen. I love the black back striping.

I can’t let a thread on Pewters go by and not show off this one. I hatched out this cool Paradox Pewter 12/15/08.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/parapewt_4.jpg

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/parapewt_5.jpg

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/parapewt_6.jpg

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/parapewt_7.jpg

Here he is with one of his clutch mates.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/parapewt_8.jpg

Awesome thread! I love pewters!

Albey I was hoping you would post that little guy...he is amazing! Any updated pics of him?

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Originally Posted by COE

Here's a shot of some of our different Pewters to show the incredible variation in color, pattern and contrast. All 3 of these are from the same lines (Graziani pastel X Graziani Cinnamon), none are in shed, and all are in the 800-1200g range. You can really see here how your choice of parents can influence the look of the babies.

http://www.centralontarioexotics.com/images/pewters.jpg

-John

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John.....nice pic to show the variation. It is pretty crazy that pewters can vary so much!

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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne

Joe, those are some of the best looking pastels I've seen. I love the black back striping.

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lol....they are pewters.....all three!

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Originally Posted by Albey

I can’t let a thread on Pewters go by and not show off this one. I hatched out this cool Paradox Pewter 12/15/08.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/parapewt_4.jpg

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/parapewt_5.jpg

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/parapewt_6.jpg

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/parapewt_7.jpg

Here he is with one of his clutch mates.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/parapewt_8.jpg

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Hot damn....now that is a neat snake!
Those color patches follow are what I was referring to as bands of distortion in response to Brandon's pewter. Usually good bands have yellow and orange flecks scattered around.
But yours are off the charts! The pattern in the colored areas is pretty well defined and there is a lot of normal color. It kind of does resemble a paradox.
Male or female?

Great snake!

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Originally Posted by Joe_Compel

Hot damn....now that is a neat snake!
Those color patches follow are what I was referring to as bands of distortion in response to Brandon's pewter. Usually good bands have yellow and orange flecks scattered around.
But yours are off the charts! The pattern in the colored areas is pretty well defined and there is a lot of normal color. It kind of does resemble a paradox.
Male or female?

Great snake!

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Hi Joe,
It is a Male and hence my dilemma. I am not sure if I am going to keep him or not. I have a Male Sterling and Silver Bullet breeding as we speak and a retired Pewter just taking up rack space so I have no need for another Male. If I knew for sure he would reproduce that I would of course keep him. Why couldn’t he have been a Female? :sniff: