Genetic "flaws" associated with various morphs?

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Originally Posted by Lucas339

on his site he shows a albino with a pretty bad duckbill and it states that it was kept alive. for him this would be a less expensive animal.

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IIRC that was from his "granite" albino female so he may be keeping that cause it is a project animal and may have the "something special" in its genes so that would make it more "important" than a typical albino. Also, IIRC that animal had no eyes.

The clutch was the result of a mother x son clutch so the inbreeding factor might have more to do with those defects than anything directly related to the albino trait. Who knows

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Originally Posted by asplundii

IIRC that was from his "granite" albino female so he may be keeping that cause it is a project animal and may have the "something special" in its genes so that would make it more "important" than a typical albino. Also, IIRC that animal had no eyes.

The clutch was the result of a mother x son clutch so the inbreeding factor might have more to do with those defects than anything directly related to the albino trait. Who knows

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Isn't backstory wonderful?

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Originally Posted by wilomn

Isn't backstory wonderful?

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Indeed :)

If anyone is interested here is the link, scroll down to clutch 13:

http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/bi.../pythons_2.asp

Wilomn not sure why you have it out for me but whatever. i expressed my views and they obviously aren't shared by you but they are mine none the less. to say "i dont know spit from shinola" (whatever that means) is entirely rude and ignorant on your behalf just because my veiw differs from yours. if you have issues with me directly, then contact me directly. i would give you that same respect.

Wes is always out to make the bestest of friends. :wuv:

seems as such

so do super cinnys always have that concave shape to the face, or do some have "normal" looking heads?

Does it just look different, or is it something that causes issues for them?

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

so do super cinnys always have that concave shape to the face, or do some have "normal" looking heads?

Does it just look different, or is it something that causes issues for them?

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That is a good question.
A theory of at least one major breeder is that there is no defect. The appearance is caused by an optical illusion thanks to the colour of the animal's head. Makes the jaw-line look extra narrow and the snout to appear widened.
That is the opinion of a major breeder that I would bet has atleast a few specimens in his collection.
-Steven

As far as spiders go, IDK, but I am the kind of person who's willing to prove it himself if plausable. Chances are I'll take a chance at the spider game in the next couple years. Besides the idea of breeding a Super Spider to a Super Pastel and get an entire clutch of Bees sounds very enticing...

Where did Shimmer go?

I have never bought an animal from BHB, but I have talked to him at Daytona this year and last year, that man has the passion and loves these animals.

We have 4 adult spiders and 2 juvy bees, and have produced about 20 spiders. I have never seen one spin, but I have seen some wobble at feeding time.

This year we bred het caramel m to a ph caramel f, all the same line, but different sires and dams, 6 eggs, 5 possible hets and 1 kinked caramel male.
That male will never be bred, we have bought another male from a different line and will attempt breeding him this year to our females, update in a few months.

Rich