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  • 08-10-2008, 10:22 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Clutch #3 pipping mojos and more...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jknudson View Post
    Is it out yet?! :P

    Nope. I'm going for a walk right now, and when I get back I expect to see a ball in the corner of the tub. I don't think I'll be able to sleep until it's out and in a padlocked tub.
  • 08-10-2008, 10:28 PM
    stangs13
    Re: Clutch #3 pipping mojos and more...
    Awesome!! There may not be anything going on with the normal at all, it could be like paradox albinos. Some look like albinos but are really hets, this could be the same way. Looks like a lucy with blotches of pattern but its mojave. I hope I totally didn't confuse anyone..LOL.
  • 08-10-2008, 11:22 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Clutch #3 pipping mojos and more...
    I can't wait to see it out!! I love paradoxes and that looks awesome.
  • 08-11-2008, 12:14 AM
    atp151415
    Re: Clutch #3 pipping mojos and more...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    I said paradox lucy, not ivory, and not to be rude, but take a look at the animal. It is what it is.

    sorry for that, i misread

    wes has one and someone posted a picture but his proved to be just a paradox and no super form

    but since you think it is a paradox lucy, wouldnt that result in mojave to mojave breeding, which would also result in no normals?

    sorry to hijack i am just a little confused :D
  • 08-11-2008, 02:06 AM
    kc261
    Re: Clutch #3 pipping mojos and more...
    Is it out yet? :D

    This really does seem to be the year of the paradox!

    It is really interesting that this snake came from a mojave x normal pairing. There is a paradox ivory posted on Kingsnake that is supposed to have come from a ivory x normal pairing.
    http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1572302,1572302

    I learned of its existence in this post from Randy Remington. He has some interesting things to say about chimeras.
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showp...0&postcount=13

    My (very uneducated) guess is that these snakes might not be chimeras, but might be from when the chromosomes don't divide properly. In humans, people can be born who are either XXY or XYY instead of XX or XY. People who do have these extra chromosomes can have some weird sexual traits that aren't normal for males or females.

    I could see if a snake got 2 yellowbelly genes from its dad, and one normal gene from its mom, it could easily look like a paradox ivory. However, this doesn't explain how you'd get a paradox BEL out of mojave x normal, since the dad didn't have 2 mojave genes in the first place.
  • 08-11-2008, 02:32 AM
    bait4snake
    Re: Clutch #3 pipping mojos and more...
    My laymens guess, sometimes a Het takes on the characteristics of a Homo. It's rare, but it seems to happen, and we're all aware of it every time it happens cuz of forums like this.

    And if it happens to you, ITS FREAKIN AWESOME!!!!
  • 08-11-2008, 02:37 AM
    masta_ballZ
    Re: Clutch #3 pipping mojos and more...
    thats a cool looking snake man, i have a big female ivory shes 800g and i am wondering what to breed her too when she gets to size. i have it down to 2 possible males a mojo or a yellowbelly. what do you guys think will be the better mate for her and which do you think would produce a nice and more likely chance of baby white snakes...
  • 08-11-2008, 10:44 AM
    SnakieMom
    Re: Clutch #3 pipping mojos and more...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    Nope. I'm going for a walk right now, and when I get back I expect to see a ball in the corner of the tub. I don't think I'll be able to sleep until it's out and in a padlocked tub.

    I'm curious... did you get any sleep? :P
  • 08-11-2008, 10:47 AM
    JeffFlanagan
    Re: Clutch #3 pipping mojos and more...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnakieMom View Post
    I'm curious... did you get any sleep? :P

    Have any of us? Come on Jake, post the pics so I can get some rest!
  • 08-11-2008, 11:14 AM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Clutch #3 pipping mojos and more...
    Sorry it took so long. I know everyone's waiting to see it out, but I had a job interview this morning. Here it is, in all it's spectacularness.

    http://a587.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...d4d9b56fd2.jpg

    http://a57.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/...ad6d71ae88.jpg

    http://a132.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...5502c7b3d3.jpg

    :banana::banana::banana:
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