Next: Lesser vs Butter

I vote Butter! But only because I love the Butter male I picked up this year
from Garrick at Royal Constrictor. I'd like to get a female but might have to breed her out myself... patience, not a virtue I possess. It was Kevin at NERD that told me only the Lesser holds the hidden gene, not the Butter, which makes the Lesser more desirable.

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Originally Posted by tony tt

I wonder if anyone can tell me, How about butter x lesser?

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Thats easy, its a Blue eye lucy:)

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

Thats easy, its a Blue eye lucy:)

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And this BEL will throw all butters and lessers when bred to a normal right? Not just all lessers or all butters.

Also do ALL lessers have the "hidden gene" or just ones from certain lines like the NERD line?

I really want a lesser or a butter as soon as I have a place to put some more snakes but like I said I still can't decide which one I want.

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

Thats easy, its a Blue eye lucy:)

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Sorry, I wonder again. I will get pure white Blue eyes lucy, Is it?:please:

From what I've researched you never can tell if you'll get a PURE white snake. However everything I've seen points to Butter x Butter or Lesser x Lesser OR Butter x Lesser BELs being pure white or close to it while Mojo x Mojo crosses are a bit gray around the head.

Mojo x Lesser/Butter crosses are suppossed to be pretty white too as the Butter/Lesser cleans up the Mojo grey.

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Originally Posted by ScottyDsntKnow

And this BEL will throw all butters and lessers when bred to a normal right? Not just all lessers or all butters.

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That should be what happens, however the point that I made earlier is that you may not know which is which because I think they're basically the same thing.

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Originally Posted by ScottyDsntKnow

Also do ALL lessers have the "hidden gene" or just ones from certain lines like the NERD line?

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No lesser has a hidden gene, if they did they wouldn't be a lesser they'd be a platinum. The hidden gene that I believe Kevin is referring to comes from his womas which make interesting things happen when mixed with the lesser mutation, it would probably do the same when mixed with the butter line.

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Originally Posted by ScottyDsntKnow

I really want a lesser or a butter as soon as I have a place to put some more snakes but like I said I still can't decide which one I want.

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Pick the individual that you like without regard to the line that it comes from.

I like lessers. The colors appeal to me on many levels. If you can see past the BEL (ie: potential projects) then the decision you make is the correct one. Best of luck. :D

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

Well I hope you'd rather want a lesser!:P

Who can tell the difference between a lesser and a butter?


http://s454.photobucket.com/albums/q...t=DSC00600.jpg
http://s454.photobucket.com/albums/q...t=IMGP8146.jpg

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Originally Posted by ScottyDsntKnow

1st one is the lesser at least thats the way it looks to me at least but sometimes they are so close its impossible to tell.

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Originally Posted by StickyTongues

I'm gonna have to say the first one is a butter and the second one is a lesser. Although the second pic is just a little darker. Comparing the butters to the lessers I saw in person at the Tinley show, the butter have a darker golden tint to them then the lessers did.

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LOL.....Those are both the same snake.......look at the pattern again.:P

I would say a lesser. My friends uncle is a bp breeder and to get bel's he only breeds lessers because he thinks they make a cleaner lookin bel. Im just gettin into bp's so i dont know a whole lot but in just going off of what he says cause he knows way more then me

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Originally Posted by lovepig78

i presonally like the green lessers get when they mature.
but ive seen some outrageous butter to.

but i say dont get a lesser in hopes of producing a platnum... only one person knows how to produce those, and even he's not entirely sure lol

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Actually someone else has produced Platinums by breeding a lesser to a "normal".....