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Ah, to revise .. bay dogs are used in hunts, but I am not concerned or affiliated with anybody that wants to compete bay dogs. I don't consider those competitions as even a sport as the hogs are penned to begin with and while a good training tool to have a hog the dogs can bay at, has little or no use to teach a bay dog anything about locating and tracking and baying down a hog out on a hunt, they need variable surfaces and to primarily be taught to track, the baying is more natural and requires little refinement.

Any bay dog that is allowed to bite is not a good bay dog and should be used, as a Bay dog or multiple bay dogs chomping on the hog will cause unnecessary pain and injury to both the hog and the dogs and the hog will only become further enraged and make the whole situation more dangerous for all involved.

Bay dogs should do what their title implies - bay. Many types and sizes of dogs can be used for bay dogs, the number used depends on the size of the hog, the number of hogs, the size of the area, etc.

This was an interesting read I'll give it that.

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Originally Posted by BulldogBalls

Any bay dog that is allowed to bite is not a good bay dog and should be used...

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The should have read:

Should NOT be used. I type so fast I forget words :D

Hm. I admit to not really knowing much on this matter. I did recently watch "My Big Redneck Wedding" on CMT. One of the husbands was into "hog hunting." They went along with him on a hunt. They had a group of hounds that they released, which found the hogs but did not kill them or really visably hurt them. The guys then ran in, lassoed up the hogs, and put them into a truck. I assumed that they would then be taken for slaughter as any other food animal, not used for dog/hog fighting.
It thus seemed to me, to be similar to cowboys, riding into their semi-wild cattle herds to round up cattle. Seemed like a way for humans to more-easily capture their wild livestock. Please do correct me if I am wrong.

That would be the use of bay dogs only. That is becoming more and more popular with the light being shed on all the people that are not training their dogs correctly and that do use inhumane methods - people are getting away from using catch dogs because they don't know proper methods and/or don't want to be considered cruel. Also, that method depends on the size of the hog and number of hogs being chased. Real big hogs are very dangerous animals and will kill and attack dogs and humans, and hogs will defend one another. For smaller hogs using bay dogs and ropes is effective if there are very few or only one hog caught in the bay.

There are methods used for training catch dogs that I most definitely do not agree with. But this is not uncommon in world of dogs, everybody is a dog trainer and everybody is an expert so I won't go into specifics because it would be really long lol

I dont know anything about hogging, but I do know a thing or two about feral hogs, and when you meet one, let me know how it goes. ;)

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Originally Posted by slartibartfast

Ashley, to clarify:
Hog-dogging is a sport in which a hog is released into a pen, and then dogs are set on it. It does not control the population, except in so far as wild hogs are captured for use in the sport.

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Are you buy chance a vegitarian?:D And have you seen a bull fight before?

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

...........I assumed that they would then be taken for slaughter as any other food animal, not used for dog/hog fighting.......

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They very welll could have been taking the hog to feed out, to get the gamey taste out of it.


EDIT-Nevermind....

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Are you buy chance a vegitarian?:D And have you seen a bull fight before?

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What does this have to do with my above definition?

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Originally Posted by slartibartfast

What does this have to do with my above definition?

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Well you seem to not like the way hogs are treated in this sport. What would you think of the feeder hogs in a hog barn getting ready for slaughter, the way they move them, the way they are bred. Visit one!:O

And a bull fight is IMO much worse than the subject we are on now... the bulls go through so much more pain and suffering. But it is a way of life for people living in Mexico and Spain. Just as our snakes are a way of life to us.