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  • 10-10-2007, 02:47 PM
    lord jackel
    Re: incubating substrate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Once they go into the bator, I don't open my boxes until the eggs pip.

    I was under the impression (seems wrong based on this post) that the eggs needed air exchange weekly? Is this another reason you use 18qt tubs...or do they not need the exchange?



    Quote:

    I think the only place where it might start to matter is when you're incubating mutations like caramels and super cinnies, but that's just theoretical gossip around the big breeder water cooler.
    I would love to know more about this? Can you share - PM is fine if you prefer.

    BTW...I think your insight definately has value :)
  • 10-10-2007, 02:49 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: incubating substrate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    I think that what I have to say might have some value, but if it doesn't, let me know and I will be glad to go away. :P

    -adam

    You breed snakes? :confused:
  • 10-10-2007, 02:57 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: incubating substrate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lord jackel
    I was under the impression (seems wrong based on this post) that the eggs needed air exchange weekly? Is this another reason you use 18qt tubs...or do they not need the exchange?


    I would love to know more about this? Can you share - PM is fine if you prefer.

    BTW...I think your insight definately has value :)

    I'm also interested in hearing your thoughts, Adam.
  • 10-10-2007, 03:05 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: incubating substrate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lord jackel
    I was under the impression (seems wrong based on this post) that the eggs needed air exchange weekly? Is this another reason you use 18qt tubs...or do they not need the exchange?

    I used to think the same things and for a lot of years I cracked the egg boxes weekly ... Once I hit the point where I was doing 50+, 60+, and 70+ clutches per year, it just became too much work with all of those clutches, so I stopped ... and you know what? The eggs still hatched. ;)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lord jackel
    I would love to know more about this? Can you share - PM is fine if you prefer.

    I don't think it's a big secret or anything? ... It's pretty common knowledge that many in the community don't necessarily believe that tweaked noses or kinks are 100% pre-determined by genetics ... and that there might be a huge underlying cause and effect related to not only temperature fluctuations during incubation, but humidity and humidity fluctuations as well. I line bred caramel to het caramel this year and didn't produced absolutely perfect caramels ... no kinks ... and not just no visible kink, but finger down the spine kink free as well ... for my caramel clutches I used a slightly dryer incubation medium, lower temps, and lots of medium in a large box that was sealed for the entire incubation period. Now, that is far from enough data to be conclusive ... and in reality, doesn't mean anything ... but a lot of people told me in the beginning of the season that 1/2 of my caramels would be kinked and the reality is that none of them were.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lord jackel
    BTW...I think your insight definately has value :)

    Thanks! ... I just feel like I have to walk on egg shells lately ... seems like anytime I try to add my two cents these days people get angry with what I have to say. I'm trying to tone down my over the top style of preaching about the things that I am passionate about in favor of a kinder gentler delivery of the info that I have to share ... hope it's working. :D ;)

    -adam
  • 10-10-2007, 03:06 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: incubating substrate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elevatethis
    You breed snakes? :confused:

    No, I only monopolize the internet.

    -adam
  • 10-10-2007, 03:11 PM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: incubating substrate
    I thought we were breeding cockatiels? Damn.. Wrong every time!
  • 10-10-2007, 03:13 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: incubating substrate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    No, I only monopolize the internet.

    -adam

    You've definitely mastered that.
  • 10-10-2007, 03:18 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: incubating substrate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elevatethis
    You've definitely mastered that.

    Since this is a thread about incubating substrate, lets please keep on topic and only speak about my master incubator skills.

    Thanks.

    -adam
  • 10-10-2007, 03:54 PM
    Brock Wagner
    Re: incubating substrate
    I use Perilite if I spelled that correctly. I try to keep the eggs at 89 degrees but they sometimes get up to 90 and go down to 87. I have seen problems if they get to hot. I just use straight Perilite and have had no problems in the last three years. The only thing I suggest is don't get the mixture to wet. I have seen and heard that kills the eggs. But hey we all make mistakes I just had two snakes dead in the egg today. It happens.


    Hope this helps.
    Brock
  • 10-10-2007, 04:00 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: incubating substrate
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Brock Wagner
    Hope this helps.
    Brock

    I really really like that sig Brock! ... "Hope this helps" is something that I've been using it for quite a while now and I'm glad to see it catching on with some! ... I was hoping it would start a trend of people showing real concern that the advice they give is actually helping someone somewhere.

    I 100% approve!

    -adam
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