Help! Burn or Scale Rot?

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Your snake is in DISTRESS, it was ABSOLUTELY the right decision to take it to a veterinarian for medical attention. It blows my mind that you believe otherwise. What medical background do YOU have that you can say it doesn't need antibiotics?

Shame on you for making your mother feel badly because she cared enough to get it immediate medical attention!

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Well, besides the fact that I'm a second year Pre-Med student, I know enough that she DIDN'T need antibiotics, and she DIDN'T need to see any veterinarian. Giving an animal/human medication that they do not need, CAN be life-threatening. So help me God if I would lose my ball python because of a medication given for something it didn't need, without my knowledge or intent. It shouldn't blow your mind.

No, not shame on me. My mother doesn't feel badly, I told her as an adult, and she has learned from the mistake. I gave her an analogous real-life situation that has come up with me a few months ago. I said how would it be if I sold my car (my parents own it) without your prior knowledge. She immediately got the drift, and now knows she shouldn't have taken the snake in. No hurt feelings, just a mistake. It may have taken her $185 to learn, but she did, and now were back to square one.

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Originally Posted by beachvibesbyeff

Well, besides the fact that I'm a second year Pre-Med student, I know enough that she DIDN'T need antibiotics, and she DIDN'T need to see any veterinarian. Giving an animal/human medication that they do not need, CAN be life-threatening. So help me God if I would lose my ball python because of a medication given for something it didn't need, without my knowledge or intent. It shouldn't blow your mind.

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So then as a second year pre-med student....you are aware of how quickly both burns and scale rot can turn into a systemic infection and kill a snake? Especially a snake that has been kept in less-than-stellar circumstances by people who are supposedly afraid to touch it? And because the vet tech didn't recognize a ball python when they saw one, that means the vet also knew nothing about snakes and how to care for them?

I hope your snake receives the care it needs one way or another. I don't care if you pay for it or not. I just hope the poor thing gets a chance at a decent life. And I hope that you....someday....learn just how much you really don't know.

"Well, besides the fact that I'm a second year Pre-Med student, I know enough that she DIDN'T need antibiotics, and she DIDN'T need to see any veterinarian. Giving an animal/human medication that they do not need, CAN be life-threatening."

Beach,

How in gods name do you know what your snake does and does not need when you don't even know what's wrong with it which is why you're here in the first place? Seriously, what's your deal?

Also, you should be thankful to have a mother that is willing to cart your snake to the vet when she doesnt even like snakes. You seem very ungreatful to say the least. The fact of the matter is you made some serious mistakes due to either inexperience or negligence or both. It's up to you to make it right. The fact that you see bringing your bird and dog to the vet as fine but somehow a Ball Python is absurd? If you were not going to be able to care for that snake you should have either sold it or given it to someone who could for the snakes sake. I for one could never leave my snake somewhere where I knew it was not going to get the care it needed even if it meant giving the snake and it's entire setup to someone who could care for it. If you were sitting in your own feces for weeks at a time I bet you would get some scale rot too. :mad:

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My mother doesn't feel badly, I told her as an adult, and she has learned from the mistake. I gave her an analogous real-life situation that has come up with me a few months ago. I said how would it be if I sold my car (my parents own it) without your prior knowledge. She immediately got the drift, and now knows she shouldn't have taken the snake in.

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Your mother did not make a mistake, she did the right thing for stepping up to the plate when YOUR animal that YOU left in HER care was in distress.

That is called being a responsible adult!

You should be GRATEFUL.

I keep reading your posts and seems to me that your only real issue is the cost (that really stands out), I think if your Mother had taken your animal to a vet and it was free this would not be a problem to you, would it?

i'm so done reading this thread..... *shakes head and walks away*

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Originally Posted by GA_Ball_Pythons

Your mother did not make a mistake, she did the right thing for stepping up to the plate when YOUR animal that YOU left in HER care was in distress.

That is called being a responsible adult!

You should be GRATEFUL.

I keep reading your posts and seems to me that your only real issue is the cost (that really stands out), I think if your Mother had taken your animal to a vet and it was free this would not be a problem to you, would it?

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My mother DID make a mistake, which she has affirmed to. It is MY snake, and I kept it at home so my MOM wouldn't be mad or worried.

It is called acting on impulse, rather than acting with rational thought.

I'm grateful for her intentions, not her action.

The money is an additional factor as to the issues. If it was free, it still would've been a problem, just not on as high of a scale. The sole reason here, is it was done WITHOUT my knowledge and say. Second, I know of someone nearby that would know more than any vet, because he's had and been around snakes his entire life. Lastly, as a medical reason, giving my snake antibiotics it DOESN'T need can only harm the snake, and could potentially lead to death.

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Originally Posted by beachvibesbyeff

Lastly, as a medical reason, giving my snake antibiotics it DOESN'T need can only harm the snake, and could potentially lead to death.

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As can systemic infection caused by untreated burns or scale rot...which is FAR FAR more likely to happen than a snake taking ill because of a reasonable dose of unnecessary antibiotics. Have you never heard of doctors and/or vets prescribing preventative antibiotics?

You keep saying your mom made a mistake...and back up your words with "proof" because she admitted to making that mistake. Sounds to me like all she did was agree with you to stop the obvious browbeating she must have been taking.

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My mother DID make a mistake, which she has affirmed to.

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So would I if I had to hear about you complain about it all the time.

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Originally Posted by beachvibesbyeff

My mother DID make a mistake, which she has affirmed to. It is MY snake, and I kept it at home so my MOM wouldn't be mad or worried.

It is called acting on impulse, rather than acting with rational thought.

I'm grateful for her intentions, not her action.

The money is an additional factor as to the issues. If it was free, it still would've been a problem, just not on as high of a scale. The sole reason here, is it was done WITHOUT my knowledge and say. Second, I know of someone nearby that would know more than any vet, because he's had and been around snakes his entire life. Lastly, as a medical reason, giving my snake antibiotics it DOESN'T need can only harm the snake, and could potentially lead to death.

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Your actions and mentality up to this point are what could lead to the snakes death. It sounds like your mother was the only one thinking with any sense or logic here. If you know so much about what your snake needs for treatment then why didnt you know that having a rheostat/thermostat is needed for the well being of your snake? This is pretty much a no brainer. If you don't know that then I seriously doubt you have a clue as to what your snake needs to treat this problem. You are wrong in almost every way here and the fact that you have top notch people giving you top notch advice only to let go in one ear and out the other speaks wonders about you and your ability to care for this snake. A snake lover would never leave their snake at a place where they KNEW is was not going to get what it needed. Again, that also speaks wonders about you. You have a funny way of showing how this snake was your "dream" and you're a reptile lover. I feel like you are going to end this thread by saying "just kidding guys, had ya going" but I doubt thats the case.

Hmmm let's just look at this step by step....

You leave your parent's home, not your home, their home. You leave a living creature behind that you know up front neither of them is equipped to handle nor has a wish to handle. So how was your snake's enclosure cleaned regularily? A person afraid of snakes is highly unlikely to do a proper cleaning, that's just common sense. So in effect you left this snake to possibly lay about in it's own feces or urine with people unskilled in it's care? Do I have the picture thus far?

Now at some point you notice your snake requires some sort of medical or at least expert intervention. You know an experienced snakekeeper/breeder, one in fact that gave or sold you this snake in the first place. You make the choice due to a lack of time to again leave this snake in a less than good situation with full knowledge that a skin condition (be that a burn or the beginnings of belly rot) is brewing. You make no plan, no suggestion to your mother to contact this friend, no attempt to contact him long distance and have him check on the wellbeing of this snake. Am I on track still?

Now your mother, being as we mothers are, did probably panic because you'd have likely had sixty fits if your snake died in her care and rushed it to the vet (which was the best option as she had no other recourse, you having basically dumped the situation in her lap and took off back to school). For this you lecture her and then bad mouth her on a public forum? Hmmmm....you should be rather glad you are NOT one of my four children. I would hope you will be compensating your parents for the funds spent on your behalf for your animal.

So.....you obviously had access to someone you respect who you say knows snakes....was there no thought about boarding this snake with your friend while you attended school? Did you think the snake could simply lay about and wait for your attention to it and it's enclosure?

Lastly, as a pre-med student you are studying nothing related to snake health and wellbeing. Your studies are not pre-vet nor vet so you are unqualified to make medical decisions regarding the need for medical care or use of antibiotics for a snake. Medical doctors do not see snakes....vets do not see humans....pretty clear cut isn't it.