prices at daytona.

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I think the prices at Daytona are exactly what all of the pro's in the business expected them to be ... if you're in the know, it's really no big deal … this is just how it’s been year after year for a long time now ... if you're not in the know then it may or may not have been surprising, depending on what your expectations are or were … new people to the business or “breeders” with very little experience are usually caught off guard by Daytona prices.

For me, I feel that right now is an AMAZING time for everyone that is passionate about ball pythons ... there are breeders big and small selling quality animals at prices that people can afford. Heck, back when I started buying ball python mutations I was paying 10, 20, and 30 thousand dollars for animals ... today, anyone can afford them.

If you're a buyer, a world of possibilities is now open for you ... if you're a breeder, your potential number of customers excited about buying animals from you is growing by an order of magnitude week after week.

I'm excited to see where we go from here ... if you're into ball pythons as much as I am, I’m sure you realize that the future is going to be absolutely AMAZING!

-adam

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Yes siiiir!!! But quality and peace of mind does have a price tag that's why I tend to go with breeder's that will be there tomorrow.;)

For those of you who are afraid of the pricing look at it like this for one minute. THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL LOOSE IN THIS MARKET IS IF YOU SELL YOUR BREEDERS. Say you buy a snake for 1000.00 in two years you have 1150-1250 in the snake which in two years the babies have dropped from 1000.00 to 400.00 in value. Still in the first years breeding you either are in the money or come close to being there. But the great thing here is you get several years now where you only will put a couple of hundred dollars back into this snake and look at the return yearly.
That was one take now here's another one. Prices will continue to fall and eventually pet stores will be buying albino balls to put into their stores just like they do with albino burmese now. In my opinion that's when the ball market will be alot of fun, When a pet store walks into a show and buys every spider or mojave or albino you have on the table. So the answer here is just produce more. Set yourself up to increase if not double your offspring every year or two.
I will give you what we have done to expand in the past two seasons. We went from producing 31 clutches in 06 to 68 clutches in 07 for this next year we only increased our ball pythons by about 10 but we have over 70 breeder size retics, burmese and boas. We decided to diversify this season to add other snakes in with our ball pythons. We will see if it pays off for us in a year.
In closing I feel this market and industry as a whole is the best it has ever been. I wish I had the money and room now to invest into the market again because like Adam I remember paying big money for some of the snakes I own and I look today at what I could buy for the same money. I am excited about this market and where we are headed in the future.

good post.

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Originally Posted by Emilio

Yes siiiir!!! But quality and peace of mind does have a price tag that's why I tend to go with breeder's that will be there tomorrow.;)

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sometimes. you can do 20 mins of looking around and find a great breeder with a good rep that dosnt have a 30%higher than market value mark up.

I love that my name gets brought up in this. Anyways the show was fun prices took some adjusting as they should on some morphs and there was plenty of morphs there to choose from. If people were so upset with $3000 Lemonblasts they should have bought them. End of my rant as I am sure I will attacked by this afternoon. The ball market is fine and prices will always come down if you can't live with it get out!


Brock

exactly. the only people that will attack are the jelious haters. who wish they had 20 lemonblasts to sell.

But question which is a greater asset to the market "quality" or "quantity"??

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Originally Posted by MATT FISHER REPTILES

exactly. the only people that will attack are the jelious haters. who wish they had 20 lemonblasts to sell.

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Umm....no

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But question which is a greater asset to the market "quality" or "quantity"??

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That's easy! Quality, hands down!

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

But question which is a greater asset to the market "quality" or "quantity"??

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I think as Adam points out you really need both. The quantity increase (ie. lower prices) are helping to drive new customers and owners into the market meaning the market can support more breeders.

You also need the quality as he and Brock point out - spending more on solid animals today that will produce for you into the future.

We have to keep in mind not everyone wants to breed (my guess is most don't want to)...so cost is more a factor for many in getting a cool looking pet.

Agreed.

My point is that it seems that as the quantity of Breeders/animals produced goes up the prices seem to be falling along with the quality of animal produced. Or am I just imagining things.