Crystal ball?

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Originally Posted by bait4snake

You stole my thunder. That's exactly what it is, I'd be willing to put a buck and a half on it. It's the Mojave Daddy, hehe.

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You mean Mojo Momma, right?:P

Hello,
This is my first post here and since there was questions, I thought I would fill everyone in on the Crystal project...
I originally picked up a female from one of my detailing clients that I bred to a Pastel... I held back one female Pastel (was extraordinary) and sold off the rest...
She took a year off and then was bred to a Mojave... Out of 4 eggs I ended up with 0.1 Crystal, 0.1 "Special Mojave" (lighter kinda orangish Mojave), 0.1 Mojave, and 0.1 Normal...
Last season she was bred again to a Mojave and produced 7 eggs... 2.2 Crystals (0.1 Paradox), 1.1 "Special Mojave", and 0.1 "Special"...

*HERE THOMAS TELLS OF A 0.1PARADOX. IM OVER HERE SCRATCHING MY HEAD ON HOW THIS PARADOX MUST LOOK LIKE. SOMEONE HAVE ANY CLUE OR PICS?*

You never know how different genes in the white snake complex are going to interact but I would think the dilute mojave would be darker than the dilute lesser (platy) since mojave is darker than lesser.

But I do suspect that the crystal might be a combo of alleles in this group. It's lighter than a super/homozygous phantom but darker than a homozygous mojave. I wonder what a phantom + mojave would look like? Also, where is all the yellow shift coming from? Probably something new in the special female, which of course could be completely unrelated to the white snake group after all.

Hopefully Tom will let us know what comes out of crystal X normal breeding as that might help figure out what is going on. If any crystals or normals are produced then we know special and mojave aren't alleles. If only specials and mojave are produced by crystal X normal then they still could be alleles but one clutch wouldn't be enough to really prove it.

Tom good to see you on this forum. I guess your friends with a guy named Shane he breeds Corns and balls lives in Murrieta?? hes been telling me about your crystals for a while now. I used his pastel male to breed to a few of my females. Anyways cool to see you here.

I say this is the missing piece. LOL.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1/DSCF0285.jpg

Nice pic, Tom! The Crystal is smokin hot...

Thanks everyon!!!
"The "special" animals that make crystals will be on tables in Daytona this summer ... keep an eye out."
Adam,
Now do you have anything else you would like to add to this statement? Anything at all? :rolleye2: It was fun hanging with you and your boys in Daytona!!!! Sorry about some of the casualties! :sabduel: Last year was an XXL... This year was a L... WHat does someone have to do to get an XL? :P
crisstile21
My computer crashed so I have absolutely no photos of the Paradox Crystal anymore... If you look for John Berrys book "Designer Morphs" there is a pic with a Crystal and a paradox Crystal that are less than a week old... I will see if I can get a photo sent to me of the Paradox...

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Originally Posted by Python Dreams

Now do you have anything else you would like to add to this statement? Anything at all? :rolleye2:

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Guess I was wrong about the crystal mammas ... should have said lollipop mommas! :D

You ROCK bro! Anytime you need a wingman just call and I'll send Vaughn! :rofl:

Like I said in the other post, I got your XL ... call a brother or something and we'll get it out to you!

-adam

i know that there are 2 strains of crystals beign worked

i know that brian has made crystals w/ lessers
and tom has made them w/ the mojaves. as a matter of fact tom has produced a couple of pastel crystal. and one has been sold.
tom has revealed his "special" mojave efmale...but looks damn normal to me

i dont see anything special...must be the same like the YB sibs that make SS
or the lesser sibs that make platty's...

who knows....im partially color blind so that doesnt help

Tom,

I have the pics I took of the Paradox last year at Anahiem if you want me to post them....

Let me know, and I will. :D