Opinions...

Is this half price deal on their entire inventory? I see they sell much more than ball pythons...

Living in Florida, I can tell you a lot of those Burmese and other giant snakes end up tossed in the Everglades with Iguanas and Monitors. IMO, they shouldn't be sold at any price, but that's just my opinion. Not everyone can properly house and care for such a large anything and most of these animals bought are just impulse buys that are never really thought through.

You can always find a home for a corn snake or even the local pet shops will take them back, but at least here in FL you could not pay someone to take back a 10ft Burmese. I found this out when I got rid of my Burmese a few years back. I started trying to return it to the local shops, none wanted it! Started with an ad for $200, then $100, finally ended with a free Burmese with cage and even then it took months.

I think the half price sale for the public is great as long as the snakes are healthy and his customer service is good. I asked what he carried in Ball Pythons and he simply replied with Piebalds and Hets.

Dan

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Originally Posted by newbpfanatic

You can always find a home for a corn snake or even the local pet shops will take them back, but at least here in FL you could not pay someone to take back a 10ft Burmese.

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It's really kind of sad to be honost with you. I'm not against people owning burms or retic's as long as they are experienced and let me say that again "Experienced" (with a capitol "E") with large boa's and/or pythons...

And your right, It's very hard to get rid of a 10ft Burmese. Especially if it's a male... or it's not a albino or some other morph.

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Originally Posted by newbpfanatic

I think the half price sale for the public is great as long as the snakes are healthy and his customer service is good.
Dan

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IMO If I was in his shoes and I decided I was going to lower the price i wouldn't even call it half price...whatever half price is...say $600. keep it at that and be done with it. If his animals are healthy and cust. service is great then awesome...I also talked to him myself and he said all of his animals come with a 4 month health guarantee..

Regardless I think anybody selling large species reptiles should have some kind of test or something to atleast insure that the person attempting to buy the animal is ready to accept that the animal will be eating 40-60 pound pigs sometime in it's life and that it will need a rather large enclosure and very well could take out FIDO the family dog and still be willing to continue with care and husbandry 20 years later...

Alot for somebody thinking about buying a burm/retic to ponder about...

I just don't think most people who buy these snakes really think down the road when this snake is 10ft or 15ft or weighs 100bs or 200lbs. Some people if capable should be allowed to own these creatures if they are capable and have the experience. The thing is, most of the people I see buying these snakes are teenagers at the local pet shops not old enough to drink! The local Pet store sells Burmese for $55.00 next to the $45.00 Ball Pythons. These kids, all they see is $10.00 more for a larger snake to drape around their neck at the beach!

Calling it a half price sale sounds great for the moment, but what happens when the 1/2 price sale is up? How do you charge double again and who will pay it? Honestly, I would just wait for the next 1/2 price sale to buy what I needed, if I knew one was available to begin with. I've got a GNC Gold card that gives me 20% off everything the first week of every month, take a guess when I shop at GNC?

If his ploy is to simply lower the price and offer certain snakes for a certain price, why not just do it? Why come up with a scheme to cover anything up? Isn't he allowed to sell his animals for what he feels like? I just don't get any of this.

Dan

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Originally Posted by jglass38

I agree with Vaughn. If you can't afford a snake at regular prices, then you cant afford to take care of it properly. Its just not a good idea.

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what if people do it just to save money? its like the whole big business vs small business like a small town with wal-mart

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Originally Posted by bchapman

what if people do it just to save money? its like the whole big business vs small business like a small town with wal-mart

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I think that you missed the point. This issue is this: What good, really, is enticing a person in a low income bracket living marginally above the poverty line to buy an animal which will end up costing a substancial amount of money over the long run. Just because the person gets half off the animal now does not mean they will continue to get half-off food, half off caging, half off vet bills, etc etc. They may save a few hundred now, but the animal will still cost the same in the long run. Is that an expense that someone with a very low income will be able to incur? Generally, I think the answer would be "no."

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

I think that you missed the point. This issue is this: What good, really, is enticing a person in a low income bracket living marginally above the poverty line to buy an animal which will end up costing a substancial amount of money over the long run. Just because the person gets half off the animal now does not mean they will continue to get half-off food, half off caging, half off vet bills, etc etc. They may save a few hundred now, but the animal will still cost the same in the long run. Is that an expense that someone with a very low income will be able to incur? Generally, I think the answer would be "no."

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Exactly! You are a smart dude.... :rockon:

I think you already said the same thing earlier in the thread...I just reworded it...I guess he doesn't understand "glass." ;)

I have never run across a forum so prone to open criticism, incorrect assumption and yes, even rampant hostility. I don't usually repond to negative threads as I always strive to take the high road on such things but some of the things said here are just appalling to say the least. Certainly surprising. I have to question what the age of the status quo is here in this forum. Are most of you teenagers?

We are not some new reptile scammer on the block trying to lie, cheat and con our way to the top. We have been providing top of the line, high quality morphs for many years now and are well known in the larger snake morphs/species circles.

In addition to this we do screen each and every customer to ensure that they have enough experience with larger snake species to handle the responsibilities involved with raising large pythons. But quite frankly keeping and breeding large snakes isn't as hard to do as many of the more vocal folks here try to say it is that have probably never even had large snakes to begin with. I have noticed that the people that always say how hard it is have never even had one. And then to read such generalities as "All burmese will get 20 feet and eat 60 pound pigs" and "All burms get thrown into the Everglades" and "Burmese will squeeze you to death" is simply just absurd. It just isn't the way it is in real life. Very few burmese get that big. Very few snake owners dump their stock into rivers. Incredibly few feeding accidents occur that end up in a dead herper. Sure these things have happened in the past and even DO happen every decade or so, but not with any regularity with which to site it here as a generality or a constant.

As for the half off deal for financially disadvantaged folks, it is just what we say it is. I don't see what's so hard to understand about it and I certainly don't see where certain people have to conjur up some diabolical, ulterior plot on our part to; "trick people" or "dump our stock" or "ruin morph markets". I can't believe the level of insane, rampant paranoia on this site where everyone assumes everyone else is up to something evil and underhanded. Were not. We just want to give poorer folks a break. lol

Please try to keep these forums civil and positive and try to refrain from blatantly criticising everyone that does something that you don't understand right off. It really only can make one person look bad and it isn't the person you are bad mouthing.

David Beauchemin
High End Herps Inc
http://www.HighEndHerps.com/
(318)335-3673

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

I think you already said the same thing earlier in the thread...I just reworded it...I guess he doesn't understand "glass." ;)

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Most people dont! :D