live or not?

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Originally Posted by snakeLVR

Quoted by Uncle Festae:
No it doesnt...feed enough Ball Pythons F/T over a period of time and you'll see


PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE!
Do Explain than the specific injuries from feeding a F/T rat or mouse, after all, the proof is in the pudding! I am really curious about these injuries, after all, I would have hoped your point was to be helpful, not just to bash my preference. :D

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It was extremely obvious Uncle Festae was making a legitimate point, not intending to "bash your preference..." Get over yourself...

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Originally Posted by snakeLVR

Sheesh is right, It certainly was not my intention to knock those who feed live, tons of my friends who have snakes do. I gave my opinion of what is good for me. I am not that kind of person. I repeat, I did not intend to offend anyone. This is why I guess many people I know can't do these forums, it gets way out of hand. I started off just wanting to share my love of pythons, and answer a question, and it was sooooo misunderstood. Then I felt that my way of feeding F/T was being knocked, seeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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perhaps part of the reason these people you know who have a problem on forums is because they don't understand the etiquette on the net. :confuzd:

CAPITALS is shouting and when you are making a point and using caps... then you are being forceful with your opinion.

adding a nice :) or a :giggle: assists people to see you are joking or being light-hearted.

of course there's the hard-core :rofl: and :8: which shows you are really joking around! and using caps when you are REALLY joking around... accents that the joke is really/truly/honestly a joke ;)

hope that helps.

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Originally quoted by Rapture ..." Get over yourself.

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Rapture, whoever you are, you certainly have no right to judge me, that was very rude and disrespectful for you to say.I'm a wife
teacher, mother, there was no call for that comment. In my profession, as an educator of children, I am anything but selfish .
Moderator, tigerlily, I was trying to back off on the original misunderstanding, and you were helpful, unfortunately to no avail, again, I wish all the kind people on this forum the best of luck!

everyone... please play nice! ;)

just a reminder... when we speak to each other with respect, then we get responses with respect. so be the bigger person... and be respectful. (that is directed at everyone who needs to hear it) :P

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Originally Posted by bonez

Originally Posted by bonez

have been feeding my baby (almost 1 year) live prey in his tank, i would hold him for like a half hour than i would put him back, than drop in a mouse.





Just wondering, but why?



Just to show some care you know get him to know me better know him better, and to try and have him understand that I am feeding him, and mostly to make sure he doesn’t think food is coming when I put my hand in the tank you know? Limit confusion between a mouse and my hand.

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Just a suggestion. You might want to bond with your snake and enjoy a bit of handling on a day other than feeding day. If your snake is geered up and ready to go that's probably not the best time to handle it. Most snakes on feeding day are antsy (at least most of ours are) and you don't want to trigger a strike. As long as you are in and out of it's enclosure cleaning, etc. plus a bit of reasonable handling most snakes will know the difference between your hand and a rodent. Not saying you'll never get bit though...owning snakes means you'll end up getting nipped some day or other. :)

As far as the live vs f/t (or p/k) issue. This is revisited here and on every other snake forum online a lot. It's something I think we handle here very gracefully and with mutual respect for the most part.

In the end, do what works for you as the keeper, do your research on proper feeding methods, find the right prey (rat or mouse) that your snake will eat with a consistent, aggressive feeding response and that you can obtain readily and of good quality but most importantly...do what works for that particular and very unique snake. That's all any of us can ever do.

I think the issue here is that sometimes the members of BP.net feel the need to convince an avid F/T feeder that it's ok to feed live. So if a new person to our forums expresses that particular opinion...they can very easily feel "ganged up" on and get defensive. These stupid "Live vs F/T" threads make for bad first impressions from BOTH sides. Makes us look bad to the new member...and makes an otherwise friendly and helpful new member look bad to us.

Please, people...don't let this kind of discussion push away new members. And to the new members, please don't base your entire opinion of BP.net on a single hot-topic thread.

snakeLVR....I only have a minute this morning, but I did want to say you are welcomed here at BP.net. :handshake: I'm in the middle of an extremely busy time in my personal life, so I only have scant moments online these days...but from what I've seen, I think you can be a valuable member of our community. :sunny:

Wow Judy where did you get the time to write that with the move and all?? Thanks for the drink of cool water and the breath of fresh air to this thread.:salute:

Judy, Thank you so much! :P You are a breath of fresh air!!!!!! I did just join, and really have so far met some wonderful people with wonderful snakes and ideas! You said that perfectly! :sunny:

I just noticed the negative rep points I received for my post here so I am back to review the thread again... Apparently I took what you said the wrong way, snakeLVR... Maybe it was the internet or I just read it wrong, but the way I saw it was that you were looking for someone to get upset and bash your preference.

Obviously I was mistaken, my apologies to you and anyone else offended. :handshake

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Originally quoted by Rapture,Maybe it was the internet or I just read it wrong, but the way I saw it was that you were looking for someone to get upset and bash your preference

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No, I don't want people mad at me, believe me , I am actually a very timid person, I guess I over-reacted too. :P . My apologies too, I will be very careful in the future not to unintentionally offend any other members and if I have a particular view or opinion about something, be very lighthearted about it, and not have it come out as forcefully as it did. :sunny: