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  • 11-28-2006, 03:23 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Soaking for extended periods of time?!?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    Okay let me just get this all straight in my head.

    You have two threads ongoing...this one about the snake having mites and soaking constantly...another about a possible RI with this snake.

    So this snake which hopefully was treated correctly with PAM (enclosure NOT snake), hopefully has no mites now but is spending over 10 hours a day soaking in a big water dish. This snake that may have an untreated RI. That came out of it's dish cold to your touch and you subsequently "warmed up".
    This is the snake that you figured needed fed! http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...Smiley/OMG.gif

    You do realize you've now delayed a vet visit on the RI issue by a good 48 hours. You're "surprised" it ate???? I'll be surprised it keeps it down at this rate! Why would you feed if you didn't feel the snake was well enough to eat and risk a regurge which will cause your snake even more issues? You have been given excellent advice in two ongoing threads by experienced keepers/breeders which you are consistently ignoring about providing two proper hides so this snake can thermoregulate...which they MUST do to digest...as well as other issues of your husbandry that have been suggested you look at.

    Great post!

    Additionally, you were asking for vet information a week ago. Have you made an appointment yet?

    CORRECTION: You started a thread on 11/14 that your snake was making popping sounds and were advised to take it to a vet. On 11/20, another thread asking about the stages of RI. On 11/21 a thread on another forum asking for information on vets in your area. Its now 11/28 and you still haven't taken the snake to the vet. Since Canada already had its Thanksgiving, you have had two full weeks to get this done. Are you going to wait until the snake is dead?
  • 11-28-2006, 03:28 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Soaking for extended periods of time?!?
    Thanks Jamie. The fact is there's been some excellent posts by Judy, Robin, yourself, and lots more folks...spending their time online trying to help this poster and his snake...even pictures included to assist him. The fact that he is outright refusing to take solid advice, given far more nicely than I can manage right now....is beyond ridiculous! This snake needs help, the owner's responsibility is to provide same in a timely manner and you are bang on that more than enough time has passed that would have allowed any reasonable person to seek vet help and adjust husbandry as advised over and over.

    Additional comments: I wasn't fully aware of this timeline Jamie...thanks for posting it...makes this an even sadder case of outright neglect in my mind. :mad:
  • 11-28-2006, 03:46 PM
    581775017
    Re: Soaking for extended periods of time?!?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    Thanks Jamie. The fact is there's been some excellent posts by Judy, Robin, yourself, and lots more folks...spending their time online trying to help this poster and his snake...even pictures included to assist him. The fact that he is outright refusing to take solid advice, given far more nicely than I can manage right now....is beyond ridiculous! This snake needs help, the owner's responsibility is to provide same in a timely manner and you are bang on that more than enough time has passed that would have allowed any reasonable person to seek vet help and adjust husbandry as advised over and over.

    Additional comments: I wasn't fully aware of this timeline Jamie...thanks for posting it...makes this an even sadder case of outright neglect in my mind. :mad:

    The funny part is how can you be so sure that I did't take any advice!! Why are you so angry? Don't guess and then say I did't take any advice..
  • 11-28-2006, 03:50 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Soaking for extended periods of time?!?
    I usually get a tad upset at folks that I can pretty much put money on the fact that they aren't taking advice when multiple threads go on here (and at other sites) for days and days with no response indicating they made any changes or sought the advise of a vet! Nothing "funny" in that for me.

    If you indeed bothered to do what's right by this snake, post a pic of it's improved setup and confirm it saw a vet and is under treatment. I'll be the first to apologize for my harsh post at that point. Other than that I stand by every character I typed and my opinion that any snake, normal or pricey morph, deserves the best it can get from it's human keeper.
  • 11-28-2006, 03:52 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Soaking for extended periods of time?!?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    I usually get a tad upset at folks that I can pretty much put money on the fact that they aren't taking advice when multiple threads go on here (and at other sites) for days and days with no response indicating they made any changes or sought the advise of a vet! Nothing "funny" in that for me.

    If you indeed bothered to do what's right by this snake, post a pic of it's improved setup and confirm it saw a vet and is under treatment. I'll be the first to apologize for my harsh post at that point. Other than that I stand by every character I typed and my opinion that any snake, normal or pricey morph, deserves the best it can get from it's human keeper.

    Darn that stinkin spread it around message!!!!

    We luv ya Jo!!! :love:

    -adam
  • 11-28-2006, 03:53 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Soaking for extended periods of time?!?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Darn that stinkin spread it around message!!!!

    We luv ya Jo!!! :love:

    -adam

    Ditto on that one!
  • 11-28-2006, 03:56 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Soaking for extended periods of time?!?
    LOL I love you both back! (and no there's no pics of this sooooo stop PMing me for them Robin! :P )
  • 11-28-2006, 03:57 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Soaking for extended periods of time?!?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    and no there's no pics of this

    Not what I heard. :rofl:

    -adam
  • 11-28-2006, 03:59 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Soaking for extended periods of time?!?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Not what I heard. :rofl:

    -adam

    I've got the video evidence. Its fantastic!
  • 11-28-2006, 03:59 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Soaking for extended periods of time?!?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Not what I heard. :rofl:

    -adam

    ACCCCK you promised you'd never speak of that "lost" weekend!!!! http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2.../LaughHard.gif
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