Feeding Live....

I feed my snakes live food and dont see anything "inhumane" about that just as long as they are supervised during the feeding, Also its more of a shock than anything when the rodent is being consumed alive.but because nature intended it to be that way, and were not worrying about every day the millions of rodents getting consumed alive out in the wild so i dont see anything wrong with it even when they are domesticated to.but like what elevatethis said almost every way of killing the rodent and/or freezing it to be f/t food is considered inhumane to certain people.

To quote Jack Woodall from The Scientist:

"Consider the following: Cats are predators; that’s what they do. Humans were also hunters long before we became farmers and livestock breeders, and humans are animals too. Yet we are conflicted about our predatory heritage; we feel that what is OK for cats is not OK for us."

"Evidently, as George Orwell had his pigs declare in Animal Farm: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." We have double standards about the right to life of different species, depending on a variety of factors ranging from similarity to ourselves (the great apes) to cuddliness (dogs, cats, badgers, fur-bearers). How differently we would react to them if rats had cute furry tails and squirrels had naked ones. If foxes had rat-like bare tails, would we care so much about them being hunted with dogs? I have a theory that naked, scaly tails remind us of snakes, for which we have an instinctive revulsion that can only be overcome by touching them and finding that they are warm and dry, not cold and slimy as feared. We need to face up to our prejudices."

Read the entire article here.

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Originally Posted by jotay

And throwing in a live rodent to be snatched by jaws and constricted while it struggles for up to 2 mins gasping for air is ??

I personally don't have to whack rats and only had to once or twice in the early years, but I still don't get this debate. Is it ignorance in the herp world to feed live? Whacking correctly or throwing in live what's the difference ?

And please don't go off on the whole how you shouldn't feed live debate. That's a dead issue as long as feeding live is done responsibility.

Not trying to start a heated debate or put down anyone's mehods. Just don't get the "ignorance of the herp world" comment.

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Feed live or humanely euthanize the prey item. Other than that, its inhumane to whack, flick, stomp, puree, blend, frappe or take a jackhammer to a living creature.

EDIT: I think I am more disturbed by the lack of caring for living creatures than anything else. To me, I think, if they are willing to whack a rat against the wall, and have to wipe off the blood, what kind of moral character can they really have. Take it or leave it, I don't really care either way :rockon:

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Feed live or humanely euthanize the prey item. Other than that, its inhumane to whack, flick, stomp, puree, blend, frappe or take a jackhammer to a living creature.

EDIT: I think I am more disturbed by the lack of caring for living creatures than anything else. To me, I think, if they are willing to whack a rat against the wall, and have to wipe off the blood, what kind of moral character can they really have. Take it or leave it, I don't really care either way :rockon:

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I to find whacking them hard enough times to have to wipe blood off the wall is a bit distrubing. One quick good whack and the creature never feels a thing. Much like the hunter who's shot hits the brain of said creature, boom it's over. Has anyone ever hit or been hit in the head as to knock yourself out? Didn't feel a thing until you came to, right ? Same for a rodent only they never come to.

It is indeed a self moral decision that we all have to make ourselves. Whacking it correct and killing instantly or letting the snake construct and kill it or gassing it is all ones own decision and I don't feel there is a ignorance about it.

It all comes down to that age old thing called opinion.

Just remember, for those that eat beef, They whack that cow in between the eyes and knock it out before they go on to kill it. I guess I just get confused in this great big world why one thing is inhumane for one type of animal but for another it is a legit way . Go figure.

Oh well it is what it is.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Feed live or humanely euthanize the prey item. Other than that, its inhumane to whack, flick, stomp, puree, blend, frappe or take a jackhammer to a living creature.

EDIT: I think I am more disturbed by the lack of caring for living creatures than anything else. To me, I think, if they are willing to whack a rat against the wall, and have to wipe off the blood, what kind of moral character can they really have. Take it or leave it, I don't really care either way :rockon:

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I do not consider them animals in a way. I bought my snakes knowing what they ate and knowing what it would take to keep them alive.

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

I do not consider them animals in a way.

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Are you referring to the rats?

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

I do not consider them animals in a way. I bought my snakes knowing what they ate and knowing what it would take to keep them alive.

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Sooo... what do you consider them as?

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Originally Posted by tmlowe5704

I do not consider them animals in a way. I bought my snakes knowing what they ate and knowing what it would take to keep them alive.

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Brilliant! :rockon:

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Originally Posted by JasonGranger

What?! That's just making it worse! They should've used a CO2 chamber.

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Yep they froze him...It is better in a freezer ...there body just shuts down.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Yep they froze him...It is better in a freezer ...there body just shuts down.

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Wrong! Get the facts straight big guy...Freezing death is horribly painful. Anyone who told you otherwise is wrong and most likely, dangerous to themself and others.