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Originally Posted by Davu

Hey Im older then you!!! :neener: Whats with the kid stuff?? LMAO :colbert2:

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NOT FAIR!? -Sighs.-

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Originally Posted by Melicious

Daniel: Mike didn't make it sound like anything. He posted the story. That's all he did. I think he wanted to show people that on rare, rare, rare occasions, this can happen.

Don't be so hard on the kid.

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That comment really had nothing to do with the story...

...when he keeps repeating the word 'attack' everywhere it sounds like he is saying ball pythons are some kind of monster out trying to intentionally hurt people. Maybe another word should be used besides 'attack'....that just sounds so negative.

These two phrases sound completely different to me...or maybe I am just over sensative.

"What to do if a ball python bites you"

"What to do if a ball python attacks you"

Get my point ;)

Wow all this new fuss is now over a word? Ok, ok, bites with the intention to constrict, kill, and eat your hand! lol Here is another one, Mistakes hand for meal. And also maybe you are being just a tad bit sensitive. lol No biggy like i said, after i posted the story i knew that someone would have something negative to say and ofcourse i would still be wrong! No worries! It has gotten to the point of just being funny to me and anything anyone has to say about it just adds to the laughter! lol

Mike

P.S. Hey Daniel1983 have yourself a great weekend!!

Did this person ever just try unwrapping this snake (quite easy since this is a small snake) and physically removing the mouth? All that shennanigans was unnecessary. I don't see why this is such a debate.. lol.. if I can unwrap my 7' boas from myself when they're upset with me and constricting my arm, then this person can unwrap a 500g ball python.

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Originally Posted by Davu

bites with the intention to constrict, kill, and eat your hand!

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Do you HAVE a BP, Davu? Have you ever SEEN a BP? I'm confused!

....this weekend I'm sending my entire collection to attack class!

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Originally Posted by Davu

Wow all this new fuss is now over a word?

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I realize you're probably relatively new to this hobby, but there is a reason why people in this hobby get sensitive to words such as "attacked". If you browse through the news on any herp related issues, or check out all the movies about snakes, you will notice how negative the public portrays these creatures. The people that really love these animals and appreciate them for what they are would like nothing better than to change the publics opinion on these wonderful animals. Using words like "attack" only perpetuates the stereotypes that people have about snakes, and makes keeping these snakes more difficult in the long run.

You know guys your all experts and your totally right! Things like i have posted never ever happen and I am sorry for being so silly about it! My bad! Wont happen again!!

I definitely have to agree with you, Deus. I just think that he was half-assedly joking and everyone jumped on him.

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Originally Posted by Davu

You know guys your all experts and your totally right! Things like i have posted never ever happen and I am sorry for being so silly about it! My bad! Wont happen again!!

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Wow, sarcasm doesn't suit you. But I'll answer your concerns neverthless. 9 out of 10 times if a Ball bites you, it will be a defensive bite and will either hit with a closed mouth or will bite and release with nothing more than a few pin pricks to show for it. You probably won't even realize it bit you. If a Ball does confuse you for a meal and clamps/constricts, then most of the time all you have to do is wait a couple of minutes and she will realize you're not a meal and let go. If she doesn't let go, you can unwrap her, grab her head and get her to release. You may end up hurting her, so the best thing to do is to allow her to release on her own even if it takes 15 minutes. This isn't a huge python, so you won't have to run to get the alcohol, get the ice water, etc. Sure, you can try those things, but they're not necessary and may end up harming your Ball.

Hello,

My name is Cheryl……and I wrote that story about the BP who intended to eat my arm. I’ve never been to this site before, and didn’t really want to get drug into someone else’s argument…….but Davu wrote me requesting permission to quote my post (very polite of him) and I kind of feel drug into the topic now.



I just want to clear a few things up. THAT WAS A STORY ABOUT ME DOING SOMETHING STUPID. Just want to make that clear to start. It was not the snakes fault, it was entirely my fault. I thought it was a funny story after the fact and thought I’d share it with others.



I KNEW that snake had been mistreated. I knew it had been starved for the most part. The boy who owned that snake was a neighbor who came to my house a handful of times in 3 ½ years to get a rat from me for his pet BP. I thought he was getting rats elsewhere and only coming to me when he was broke. I found out when his mother wanted to give the snake away that all the food he got in those 3 ½ years came from me. Lord knows how often he was fed before I moved here.



I am not a snake rescue. I am no expert by any means. I’ve been keeping and breeding snakes for 5 years and I took that snake in out of pity as a rescue. I NEVER should have pulled that snake out in front of a potential newbie. It was STUPID and the snake taught me a fine lesson on over confidence (they rarely bite, and if they do it’s not really a big deal)! It was a stupid thing to do. I should have recognized that snake was inspecting my arm a little too intently, and realized he was entirely too worried about where and when his next meal was coming from. I brought the animal in, for three weeks introduced it to the idea that food came with my scent on a regular basis………..and then picked up the snake to show a newbie.



As far as removing the snake. Yes I could have uncoiled him, and I did try a little. But he was very intense and I really didn’t want to tear out any of his teeth and make my arm hurt more and possibly harm him. He was sure he could eat something that smelled like the food delivery if he could just make it stop struggling! (poor guy). The cold tap should have worked. It would have worked with a snake less food intense than he is.



All that said, I do agree that the word “attack” is inflamatory~ and it is really not nessesary to arm a newbie with multiple methods for removing a starving snake from your arm……..But people do stupid things all the time (not just me!) While Davu may have approached y’all more aggressively in his stance than is needed……is it really all that outrageous for him to suggest to newbies that if you do take a feeding strike and the snake coils……run him under the cold tap at your bathroom sink so he’ll let go on his own rather than pry his body off your arm and probably tear out some of his teeth into your flesh?



I don’t want to argue with y’all. I pretty much agree with all of you….to a point. Why don’t y’all agree to disagree…..or agree that people are stupid and move on?