Maybe it's just me...

i'm blessed i live in va. i don't worry about shipping, i just drive up to adam's shop and pick them out of the fb racks, put them in my foam box and cuddle them all the way home! works for me.

vaughn

I just want a simple answer to one question.

Does UPS allow these breeders to ship snakes via UPS or are they doing so against UPS policies?

If UPS does allow them to ship live harmless snakes, how did they go about it?
If it doesn't and they do it anyway, that's their business.

I think im just going to agree to disagree with you adam :neener: and agree with Jamie

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Originally Posted by jglass38

I have to disagree with you there Adam. Odds are, a guy who would normally throw a box on to the conveyor belt might be a little gentler with one that has a live animal in it. Of course there are those lunatics out there.

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Talk to some of the people that work at FedEx ... you'll hear much different ... they DON'T CARE ... the guys in Memphis move so many boxes each night, they don't even read them ... they just grab and toss.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

As far as whats legal or not, its against UPS terms of service. So it goes to reason that these breeders would NOT be marking the boxes and theoretically could put their animals at further risk.

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There's nothing in UPS's terms of service that says you can't mark a box "LIVE HARMLESS REPTILES".

I just don't understand why anyone would think that a little label really makes a difference. From the time the box leaves the shippers hands until the time it arrives at it's destination there is potential for bad things to happen ... if things like labels and "certifications" make you feel more comfortable when receiving animals, then go for it ... I've been shipping for 10 years ... hundreds of packages ... I can honestly tell you that it doesn't matter. The snake is either going to get there or it's not ... it's going to be alive or it's not ... labels can't help one way or the other. ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by kavmon

i'm blessed i live in va. i don't worry about shipping, i just drive up to adam's shop and pick them out of the fb racks, put them in my foam box and cuddle them all the way home! works for me.

vaughn

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The mental picture of you cuddling a snake while driving is priceless :P

ok, the cuddling thing was just for drama. they really ride in the back seats. but i do the speed limit,buckle the box up,avoid potholes, and turn the temp up for them! lol


vaughn

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Talk to some of the people that work at FedEx ... you'll hear much different ... they DON'T CARE ... the guys in Memphis move so many boxes each night, they don't even read them ... they just grab and toss.



There's nothing in UPS's terms of service that says you can't mark a box "LIVE HARMLESS REPTILES".

I just don't understand why anyone would think that a little label really makes a difference. From the time the box leaves the shippers hands until the time it arrives at it's destination there is potential for bad things to happen ... if things like labels and "certifications" make you feel more comfortable when receiving animals, then go for it ... I've been shipping for 10 years ... hundreds of packages ... I can honestly tell you that it doesn't matter. The snake is either going to get there or it's not ... it's going to be alive or it's not ... labels can't help one way or the other. ;)

-adam

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I suppose. I'd like to believe there is more care than that put into it. I guess it all comes down to how the buyer feels about it. Everyone is certainly free to make their own decisions and go with who they want. I know my main concern when shipping has been and will be the safety of the animal. I could be dead wrong, but i'll go with the belief that the company who has decided to allow the shipping of live harmless reptiles and has gone as far as to offer a certification program instructs their employees to put a little extra care into those boxes. Let me live in my Utopia, will ya? :)

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Originally Posted by kavmon

ok, the cuddling thing was just for drama. they really ride in the back seats. but i do the speed limit,buckle the box up,avoid potholes, and turn the temp up for them! lol


vaughn

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Taking the kind of care that any good person would. Maybe instead of UPS or FedEx or Delta we could all send our animals through Vaughn-Express. Personal care in every delivery. Am I on to something?

you pay for food and gas and it's a done deal! i like steak
(top sirloin) 1" medium well. lol


vaughn

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Originally Posted by kavmon

you pay for food and gas and it's a done deal! i like steak
(top sirloin) 1" medium well. lol


vaughn

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haha..I think I'm going to take the drive down to Adam's myself (if he'll still have me :D). I want to be the one cuddling my babies on the 3.5 hour drive back!