bci are better imo and as you get to know your snake, you will know its temperament and when and when not to handle, how to handle as it gets bigger etc
But how are these traits exclusive to boas?
02-01-2006, 01:00 PM
elevatethis
Re: Boa v Ball
I have a feeling most people on this site are relatively new to ball pythons (I've only got about 3 years under my belt) and that the age of the snakes in their collection is young too. My point is, Ball pythons fully grown are NOT small animals. Males will eventually thicken up considerably with age (just ask Ginevive to post some pics of her older male) and females fully grown are even more girthy and usually touch 4.5-5' in total length.
That being said, I think ball pythons are a great snake to sort of "open the door" to other larger constrictors. Ball pythons have their fair share of possible issues, with most being easily corrected by proper husbandry. If you can learn to raise a ball python to adulthood, those lessons will make raising other larger constrictors MUCH less stressful.
Now, I also think that red-tails are easy snakes to keep. The kicker with them is merely the size of the enclosure for a fully grown animal. RTBs also grow at a slower rate, relative to other boas and pythons. They are less sensitive to temperature and humidity than ball pythons are, and most by and large are pretty laid back in temperment. I'm not totally against someone new to constrictors getting a healthy, well started CBB RTB.
02-01-2006, 03:42 PM
Diceman
Re: Boa v Ball
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smulkin
But how are these traits exclusive to boas?
I think he means the size shouldent scare people cause sense you raise it from a baby you know its attitude and while its never predictable you can tell if it doesnt wanna be messed with..where a ball is so small if it doesnt wanna be messed with you little tag lol a boa that doesnt wanna be messed with will leave a little more
A male BCI doesnt get un-managably big assuming you dont powerfeed it like a horse...a male BCI can live his whole life in a 4'x2' enclosure so he doesnt take up alot of space
02-01-2006, 04:00 PM
Smulkin
Re: Boa v Ball
I almost understood that until the
Quote:
messed with you little tag lol
do you mean a boa would be better because it doesnt have as small a bite?
(coffee got leeched this morning so I am running on a deficit, sorry!)
02-01-2006, 05:52 PM
Diceman
Re: Boa v Ball
No im saying a 5-6 foot male boa (which sounds bigger then it actually is) is nothing to be scared of and isent to big to be managable...a 4x2 cage doesnt take up space and is easy to clean the boa isent to big to handle and they also have good temperement like the balls and are also very forgiving of husbandry mistakes and wont refruse food as easily
And if a 5-6 foot snake scares people they dont need a ball either as they have the potential to get that big (not likely but its there)
It seems the reason people say a boa isent a good first snake is because of the size when infact a male BCI adult isent even that big if youve seen one in person
02-01-2006, 06:13 PM
doobysnack
Re: Boa v Ball
i have a picture of me and a guys breeding pair of rtbs so how would i go about puting the picture up
02-01-2006, 06:25 PM
Adam_Wysocki
Re: Boa v Ball
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diceman
but go to a general reptile forum and talk to some experts
LOL ... what "experts" hang out on general reptile forums?
Any tool with a fish tank and a keyboard can be an "expert" on the internet.
-adam
02-01-2006, 06:44 PM
Diceman
Re: Boa v Ball
The people who keep more then a couple snakes..people like you who have alot of snakes breed them have years of experience not just the person who got a baby ball for their birthday
I dont know if this is the only reptile forum your on adam but this place is mainly just people who got a couple snakes as pets (yes including myself) now if you go to a forum thats not 95% about balls the opinions you get are much different cause the people voting dont just have 1 snake that happens to be a ball python...
02-01-2006, 07:02 PM
Jeanne
Re: Boa v Ball
Quote:
Originally Posted by doobysnack
i have a picture of me and a guys breeding pair of rtbs so how would i go about puting the picture up
Add it as an attachment to your post, or put it in your gallery and link it!
02-01-2006, 08:27 PM
Reptile_King
Re: Boa v Ball
From what i've heard a adult male bp's bite wil hurt more than a juvi BCI's. Also adult male BCI's are more than 5 feet most of the time. I would say more a 6-7 range. Although there are some that only get 5 feet, and then there are those that get 8 feet.
